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Old 10-30-2011, 12:51 AM   #1
 
No Heater?

I live in the Philippines and just purchased a 5 gallon aquarium setup. I noticed they didn't have a heater in the package. ( The homes and cars don't have heaters either.)
I guess the water temperature here remains around 75-79 without any assistance. The homes are not air conditioned either so it didn't bother me.
I have 3 goldfish that we inherited on a field trip and my wife bought 8 male guppies. I plan to get a few females and breed them. I understand it would take a lot of females to be comfortable with that many males and I don't plan to buy that many. Guess I will have to figure this one out.
I had planned to get some neons and possible a few cardinals but I think I will need a larger tank if I do that.
I can always use the 5 gallon setup for breeding.
Am I on the right track so far?
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Old 10-30-2011, 02:09 AM   #2
 
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5 gallons seems pretty small for that many fish. I would also worry about keeping guppies with goldfish because of the different temperature requirements.
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Old 10-30-2011, 03:43 AM   #3
 
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Goldfish are considered cold water fish and are not suitable to keep with tropicals like guppies. They like to be at temperatures under 75F. Also goldfish regularly grow to about 10 inches; they will quickly outgrow a 5 gallon. I have two goldfish in a 50 gallon. Most goldfish like the ones you have live in ponds.
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Old 10-30-2011, 04:42 AM   #4
 
I do not plan to keep the goldfish. I think they may leave the tank as soon as they grow a bit more.
They do seem to be eating a lot of the things laying around right so they are helping keep things clean for me.
If I can convince the rest of the family, I will just get a larger tank and raise guppies and a few neons.
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Old 10-30-2011, 09:28 AM   #5
 
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I do not plan to keep the goldfish. I think they may leave the tank as soon as they grow a bit more.
They do seem to be eating a lot of the things laying around right so they are helping keep things clean for me.
If I can convince the rest of the family, I will just get a larger tank and raise guppies and a few neons.

Ken,

Check the fish profile section out there. Cardinal tetras need a lower ph range, with softer, more acidic water. In general you can get the info you may need on fish, before you start buying them, or putting them together. Neon tetras are much hardier than the Cardinals.

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Old 10-30-2011, 06:43 PM   #6
 
I will probably just get neons later.
Right now I am having a problem with the ones I have. I am going to start a different thread for that challenge.
I have not seen any cardinals here yet so they are pretty much a dream (like a bigger house for more aquariums).
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Old 10-30-2011, 11:11 PM   #7
 
Just a quick suggestion...you need to always find out who the "tank mates" are for your fish. They have to live in the same tank, so temps need to be the same. Also, good rule of thumb is for every one inch of fish you need 1 gallon of water...otherwise it is too croweded and you will have a lot of stress in the tank. Wish you best.
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Old 10-30-2011, 11:35 PM   #8
 
I have read soo much about the overcrowding rule. It seems that 56 guppies in a 20 gallon tank is not too much by one counting and 5 guppies would overcrowd a 5 gallon tank. That doesn't make much sense.
I did see one rule of thumb that did make sense. It said to determine the area of the surface and (for guppies) divide by 3. That would put 43 guppies in my 5 gallon tank which seems like that would crowd it up some. It also looks like that may be the proper amount to go to the maximum with a good pump and filter.
The way it is right now they don't look crowded. There seems to be lots of open space for them and they all seem to be happy swimming around looking for girls ( there are none yet).
The goldfish are quickly eating their way out of the tank. They will probably be "presents" to some of Ray's friends. Maybe we could convince the school they need an outdoor pond with some fish in it. They seem to have a lot of other "outdoors" things on their campus.
When you really read some of the "rules" you wonder how a person can have many fish without a very large tank.
Being realistic, 5 guppies for a 5 gallon tank or even 20 guppies for a 20 gallon tank sounds like an empty tank.
I am just trying to figure things out right now and also trying to determine which way to go.
We did just move the aquarium to the other side of the room where there is a lot of shade. We will have to be careful to keep things from falling through the stairs onto the tank though.
I know this will all work itself out. The advice is getting conflicting right now.
The shop where I made the purchase seems to have been more interested in profit than assistance so I will be looking for another store to get supplies the next time.
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