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Old 07-20-2008, 02:01 AM   #21
 
Yeh I checked out some extra info on the carbon today. I made the assumption (always a mistake) that if it came already inside the filter, as it does with the Emperor Bio-wheel cartridges, that it would be cool. Obviously not.
As far as my water goes...Ammonia/Nitrite = 0 Nitrate around 5ppm. PH is a little higher than I want at 7.6. My tap water is 7.0. I believe the cause was a few rocks that I was using to form a cave for my catfish. Again I assumed (stupid) that since the clerk at my LFS said they wouldn't affect anything that they wouldn't. Won't be making that mistake again. I just removed them yesterday. I'm also adding a DIY co2 system soon to pump in some more CO2 for my java ferns which are doing miserably as you can tell from the photos. Currently I'm just using a cheap co2 system where you drop the tab in the cup and it bubbles up co2. As cost is an issue I believe the DIY system is my best bet. Obviously I'll have to play around with it to hit that right balance. We are using several different fertilizers at the moment, though at reduced dosages. Seachem Flourish and Flourish Excel, as well as API Leaf Zone. We're playing around with the quantities of each to see what works best. We also have Flourish Iron but I'm nervous about dumping a concentrated shot of iron in the water considering all the other fertilizers also contain iron. We have allowed the back walls of our tank to grow a pretty good amount of green algae for our snails, rainbow shark, and oto's but my fear is that if we dump in too many nutrients that the algae will completely take off and quickly cover the whole tank.

My light fixture holds 2 65 Watt Dual 6700K White/10000K White compact bulbs. I'm currently only using 1 at a time until I get that extra co2 pumping. Even then I may only need the one but we'll see. Water temp averages around 77. Fortunately only Hell is hotter than Texas so my tank doesn't even need the heaters right now, but they are in place for our 3 days of winter. Our AC keeps the water temp pretty stable. KH is relatively high (which may also be affecting my ability to alter my PH) at 15 dkh while my GH is pretty neutral on the soft side at 7dh. I'm trying to shy away from any chemicals that artifically raise or lower any of my water parameters (other than the tap conditioner) so I'm hoping the removal of those rocks and the additional co2 will reduce my PH and not greatly affect my KH. I really don't want to spend the money on RO if I can avoid it.

So, if you were only looking for the short version AMMONIA/NITRITE = 0 NITRATE = 5ppm PH = 7.6 KH = 15 GH = 7
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Old 07-21-2008, 12:09 PM   #22
 
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You don't even have to use sponges, if you take the media that comes with the filter, and cut a little on the flossy side, you can shake all the carbon out of there and then you have a reusable filter cartridge.

Your tank looks good, I'm surprised your java fern is failing to thrive! I've got some java fern in my tank and besides the fact that I have pond snails making salad of it, its doing well.

Lol anyone have a suggestion to kill pond snails that I can't seem to find?
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Old 07-21-2008, 12:55 PM   #23
 
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You don't even have to use sponges, if you take the media that comes with the filter, and cut a little on the flossy side, you can shake all the carbon out of there and then you have a reusable filter cartridge.

Your tank looks good, I'm surprised your java fern is failing to thrive! I've got some java fern in my tank and besides the fact that I have pond snails making salad of it, its doing well.

Lol anyone have a suggestion to kill pond snails that I can't seem to find?
1. Buy a 5.5 gallon tank.
2. Decorate it and let it cycle.
3. Put a dwarf puffer in it.
4. Put some veggies in the problem tank for a few hours, remove, shake off snails into puffer tank.
5. Watch the cute little puffer turn into a merciless killing machine.
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Old 07-21-2008, 01:04 PM   #24
 
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:D I like that idea! Thanks batman I feel bad for killing the snails... Lol actually I'm not going to lie, I found two (they were mating ) and I scooped them out and said "ahah! Now your gonna die " Then looked at the cute little things just innocently doing what they were made to do... And put them in my ten gallon with no live plants I'm to soft.

But I've wanted a puffer for a pretty long time, and I wouldn't feel bad if the snails were dying for a good cause. So I'll be looking into that

Thanks again!
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Old 07-21-2008, 01:40 PM   #25
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About your pH. I would let some tap water sit in a cup for a day and them test it again. My water comes out of the tap at 6.4 and rises to 7.6 in about a day! I don't know why, but if I had just tested it in the first place I would have saved myself a lot of time removing countless decorations in my aquarium . It may not be your rocks after all. Just thought that I should share my experience with this.
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Old 07-21-2008, 02:18 PM   #26
 
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Well what tank is it exactly that has the problem? You might be able to put some sort of snail-eating fish in the tank.
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Old 07-21-2008, 02:29 PM   #27
 
Thanks Kim. I remember your post about it, but I haven't tried it. I'll give that a shot tonight....what causes the water to do that? Something lost during evaporation?
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Old 07-21-2008, 02:30 PM   #28
 
Awesome idea on the puffer. That accomplishes two goals of mine. Get a dwarf puffer (don't think he'd get along well with my tetras) and get a larger QT :). If, of course, I can convince my wife to move the coffee machine out of the kitchen.
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Old 07-21-2008, 02:50 PM   #29
 
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Well what tank is it exactly that has the problem? You might be able to put some sort of snail-eating fish in the tank.
Lol I'm assuming this was directed at me. My 28 gallon planted tank has "the problem" Well its the only tank I care about that has the problem. They can over run my ten gallon if they want, they are just going to find that they have no food.

I already have 4 swords plus a baby one thats probably only an inch big. 4 serpae tetra and 1 cory cat ( I know this isn't good, I did have 6 but they have been slowly dying off) I'm going to relocate my cory cat into my new 20 gallon with sand substrate once I get it. And make his shoal bigger, I feel so bad for him. But hes doing ok for now. And two shrimp, I'm not really sure I have enough room for a snail eating fish, unless you have a suggestion of a smaller one?
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:44 AM   #30
 
First of all let me say thank you to everyone for your tips and suggestions. I'm at least mildly confident now that I'm doing what I need to be.
A few final questions...Most/all tetra's favor slightly acidic water. My PH is holding constant at about 7.6 and KH around 15dkh. The tetra's are all doing great with the exception of one rummy nose which I believe had a case of Neon Tetra disease contracted prior to purchase (was not visible at purchase). He was promptly removed and it doesn't seem to have spread.

First question...as it has been over a week since the diseased tetra was removed and none of the other tetras are showing any visible signs, is it likely that I am in the clear or is it possible that this disease may be dormant or just currently not visible in my other fish?

Second question...as my PH is slightly above recommended level for tetras is there a risk that the fish may have some problems down the road because of this? Or, because the PH is stable and KH is high will they likely be fine as long as PH doesn't increase any further?
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