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Old 04-22-2012, 09:33 PM   #31
 
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If you provided them with a CO2 system and fertilization, you would have good growth under that light.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:43 PM   #32
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Ok, I think that is what I am going to do! The tank comes with a nice mini CO2 and I will get good substrate. The lighting will be almost 2 watts per gallon but I think it'll work. If not then i will change to Pelia!! Thanks so much Olympia and Byron for all your help and I probably not done with the questions! If you have anymore advice please feel free to let me know it!

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Old 04-23-2012, 09:20 PM   #33
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Hi again! Like I predicted, I have more questions:)

I have ordered my tank and the plants will hopefully come a day or two after I get the tank. My question is, if I don't plan to stock the tank for a week or so, should I add a couple of drops of ammonia to feed the plants? Or if I were to add 4 or so ghost shrimp, would they produce enough ammonia for the plants until I get fish?

Or am I just getting mixed up and plants dont need ammonia?

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Old 04-23-2012, 09:25 PM   #34
 
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Don't add ammonia with the plants in...
The plants will be fine without food for a while. If you want you can use a fertilizer like flourish tabs.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:35 PM   #35
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Ok I won't add ammonia! Will a couple of shrimp and a couple of fish be enough ammonia supply for the plants in the long run?

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Old 04-24-2012, 09:55 AM   #36
 
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Yes, it is all about balance.

On the fertilizer, rather than substrate tabs I would use liquid which feeds all plants. Some plants absorb certain nutrients via the leaves no tht eroots, so a comprehensive liquid covers all bases. And the two I recomended do contain some nitrogen (ammonium). Do not add ammonia to the tank with plants as Olympia mentioned.
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Old 04-25-2012, 02:12 PM   #37
 
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Yes, it is all about balance.

On the fertilizer, rather than substrate tabs I would use liquid which feeds all plants. Some plants absorb certain nutrients via the leaves no tht eroots, so a comprehensive liquid covers all bases. And the two I recomended do contain some nitrogen (ammonium). Do not add ammonia to the tank with plants as Olympia mentioned.
Hey Byron, when you add liquid ferts. like flourish comp. say, do you just pour the measure directly into the top of the tank? or should it be mixed with some tank water and then poured back in? just wondering how it gets all around the tank to all the plants, I am guessing it just gets sucked into the filter and then ejected again etc?

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Old 04-25-2012, 02:16 PM   #38
 
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Hey Byron, when you add liquid ferts. like flourish comp. say, do you just pour the measure directly into the top of the tank? or should it be mixed with some tank water and then poured back in? just wondering how it gets all around the tank to all the plants, I am guessing it just gets sucked into the filter and then ejected again etc?

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For Prime it suggest "May be added to aquarium directly, but better if added to new water first. If adding directly to aquarium, base dose on aquarium volume. "

For Flourish you just put it right in. "Use 1 capful (5 mL) for each 250 L (60 gallons*) once or twice a week. For smaller doses, please note that each cap thread is approximately 1 mL. Refrigeration after opening is recommended but not required."

The liquid furtz mainly will be in the water which is great for floating and stem plants. Root tabs will diffuse in the substrate allowing better access to minerals for rooting plants. The liquid fertilizer will go everywhere covering the bases for root tabs as Byron states. Those plants that do have roots take in minerals both from the water and their roots.

If you have a tank established longer than a year than it usually has enough decomposed matter at the bottom which will really help the plants. (assuming no heavy cleaning of the substrate is being done). Therefore root tabs really aren't essential, especially in mature tanks.

I dose 2x a week because with the filter pads, the plants and the time I feel like the chemicals get used up quite fast.

Note: Prime makes Flourish useless, so make sure to use it 24 hours after you dose a tank with Prime.

Hope this helps.

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Old 04-25-2012, 02:28 PM   #39
 
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Some members have listened to me...

Yes, I just measure it with a 1/2 teaspoon (from one of those kitchen measuring spoon sets, just for aquarium use of course) and pour it in the tank, usually at the end with the filter return to help dissipate it.

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Old 04-25-2012, 03:34 PM   #40
 
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Ok, I have just poured it around on the surface but will add it near the filter return, sounds a good idea!

We all listen to you Byron, the Dark Knight, Jedi master, grand master wizard of all things fishy! All your responses are much appreciated, and everyone else's too!

As for substrate cleaning during water changes on a planted tank, just hovering the siphon above the gravel will suck enough away, like fish poo and un eaten food etc. not a good idea to dig the gravel cleaner in? Yet to use my siphon, have been doing water changes with a measuring jug lol.... Tank is only a couple or so months old..
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