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New tank, not sure if doing it right!!
Old 06-29-2011, 01:50 AM   #1
 
New tank, not sure if doing it right!!

Hi I purchased an aquarium Aqua one AR-980, (215litre) - 56 gallon (abit bigger than I was going to get - but it was such a bargain I couldn't say no). It has a hood with the filter in it and sorry if I use the wrong terms but I am still learning.
I have a Jebo aquarium pump (50Hz, 18w-20w, 900l/hr) and in the hood there are three sections, the first has ceramic rings in the bottom which is covered with a black what looks like a big scouring pad then some filter wool.
The middle compartment which is smaller has some more ceramic rings and 2 bags of charcoal (which I rinsed thouroughly) then it has the black pad then the filter wool on top.
The third compartment has the black pad on the bottom with 2 layers of filter wool on top.
Not sure if this is right. The filter has a long pipe which drips along these three compartments.
I have had the heater set on 26 degrees C (78.8 degrees F). And have had the airator on.
Mon 19th June I filled tank with water treated with conditioner, put on heater, filter and airator.
Tuesday 20th June (and everyday for 1 week) added "Stability" (new tank stabilization system)
Thursday 23rd June added 8 neon tetras
Friday 24th June ph - 7.6; ammonia - 0; nitrite - 0
Sat 25th June ph - 7.4; ammonia - 0.25ppm; nitrite - 0
Mon 27th June ph - 7.6; ammonia - 0.25ppm; nitrite - 0
Wed 29th June ph - 7.6; ammonia - 0.25ppm; nitrite - 0
Am I being impatient or doing something wrong, I thought I would get some changes by now. The fish are all happy and I have been feeding them twice a day, except yesterday I didn't feed them as they all looked overweight and I think I overfed them.
Any advice, help etc would be appreciated as I realise I have alot to learn.
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Old 06-29-2011, 03:03 AM   #2
 
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Hi I purchased an aquarium Aqua one AR-980, (215litre) - 56 gallon (abit bigger than I was going to get - but it was such a bargain I couldn't say no). It has a hood with the filter in it and sorry if I use the wrong terms but I am still learning.
I have a Jebo aquarium pump (50Hz, 18w-20w, 900l/hr) and in the hood there are three sections, the first has ceramic rings in the bottom which is covered with a black what looks like a big scouring pad then some filter wool.
The middle compartment which is smaller has some more ceramic rings and 2 bags of charcoal (which I rinsed thouroughly) then it has the black pad then the filter wool on top.
The third compartment has the black pad on the bottom with 2 layers of filter wool on top.
Not sure if this is right. The filter has a long pipe which drips along these three compartments.
I have had the heater set on 26 degrees C (78.8 degrees F). And have had the airator on.
Mon 19th June I filled tank with water treated with conditioner, put on heater, filter and airator.
Tuesday 20th June (and everyday for 1 week) added "Stability" (new tank stabilization system)
Thursday 23rd June added 8 neon tetras
Friday 24th June ph - 7.6; ammonia - 0; nitrite - 0
Sat 25th June ph - 7.4; ammonia - 0.25ppm; nitrite - 0
Mon 27th June ph - 7.6; ammonia - 0.25ppm; nitrite - 0
Wed 29th June ph - 7.6; ammonia - 0.25ppm; nitrite - 0
Am I being impatient or doing something wrong, I thought I would get some changes by now. The fish are all happy and I have been feeding them twice a day, except yesterday I didn't feed them as they all looked overweight and I think I overfed them.
Any advice, help etc would be appreciated as I realise I have alot to learn.
Corry

Read more: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/m...#ixzz1QdoQq8p9
Sounds like what would be expected with a newly established(cycling) tank with thankfully small bio-load.
Would keep an eye on ammonia levels and if they should creep any higher than that posted,, perform a 25 to 30 percent water change with dechlorinator added to new water before it goes in the tank.
After ten days,, I might consider adding another two or three small fish and would then wait another ten days and add two or three more.
With small bio-load that you have in 56 gallons the tank should not register toxic levels of ammonia, so long as fish arent' over fed, or tank is not stocked too quickly with too many fish and the tank will mature nicely.
After a couple weeks,,you may see small nitrite spike (Good thing) just monitor and change 30 percent of water if levels increase above .25.
Were it me,, I might change 30 percent of the water once each week unless levels of ammonia and nitrites dictate sooner just to get used to the weekly water changes that will be needed throughout the tanks life.
water changes won't hurt any fishes or slow the cycling process to any measureable degree.
I would leave all filter material alone for the next three to four weeks for this will be where the majority of good bacteria will be found and so long as the fishes aren't being over fed,,the material should not get too dirty.
should you need to clean the material(not replace yet),then clean the material by swishing it around in some old aquarium water you take out during water change and stick it back in the filter.
In my view ,,all that is needed is patience and slow stocking of small fishes for the time being at ten to fourteen day interval between new additions.
You can use this time to google,research here under tropical fish profiles fishes that interest you for shared water parameter's with respect to pH,compatibility with other fishes,and diet .
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Old 06-29-2011, 05:24 AM   #3
 
Thanks for that, I have done ALOT of reading on the internet, but it gets confusing as there is conflicting information. Thought I would stick to this site and hopefully get some sound advice.
Was thinking of adding zebra danios next or maybe some guppies. Should you always put fish in your tank in two's? Also wanting to change my plastic plants to real ones would this be the right time?
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Old 06-29-2011, 06:13 AM   #4
 
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Thanks for that, I have done ALOT of reading on the internet, but it gets confusing as there is conflicting information. Thought I would stick to this site and hopefully get some sound advice.
Was thinking of adding zebra danios next or maybe some guppies. Should you always put fish in your tank in two's? Also wanting to change my plastic plants to real ones would this be the right time?
In my opinion, with new tank it is best to not try and stock too many fish at once until biological filter is established and best to stock two or three fish at a time at ten to fourteen day intervals. At the second week mark, you could add three or four danios (not giant Danios) or another three or four tetra's. Both species do best in groups of six or more but by adding them in three's there is less chance of increased ammonia levels.
After three weeks,you could add perhaps four or five cory's and ten days to fourteen days after that ,perhaps a larger fish or two or another two or three cory's.
Try to select fishes that share same water parameter's,temp range,and those that are compatible from demeanor standpoint.
If fishes don't all enjoy similar conditions, (ie) pH,GH,temp, then some will thrive and other's are likely to be sickly . Try to keep fishes such as livebearer's guppies,mollies,platy's,swordtails, in more alkaline water and tetra's and other softwater fishes in soft more acidic water.
Fish profiles here, can help you create a tank where all fishes will thrive not withstanding those who report varying degrees of sucess by doing otherwise.
Now would be a good time to go with live plant's and I might start with easy low light plant's such as anubia,java fern which can be attached to wood or rocks with thread and crypt plant's (many species) which can be placed in gravel.
Byron who is a member here, would be the person to speak with more expierience than I,, with regards to planted aquariums and a few other member's here as well.
Will try to help if I can.
Biggest most frequent mistake made by most who set up new aquariums is stocking too many fish too soon = sick ,dying fish nearly without exception. Slow and steady is the way forward.
Eyeball new fishes closely before purchasing so as to lessen chances of buying sick fish from the out set.
Don't buy fishes with torn or tattered fins,don't buy fish from tanks where dead fish are present,don't buy fish with splotches,or fuzzy growth on them or fishes that look as though they have been sprinkled with salt.
Don't buy fishes resting or laying on the substrate with exception of cory's ,loaches,plecos.
Don't buy fishes gasping at surface or fishes that are cowering at the corner's of show tanks.
Healthy fishes will be actively swimming ,have all of their fins,clear eyes.and should rise to the surface when the tank lid is opened in anticipation of food.
Hope some of this is helpful and apolgize for any poor spelling but I ain't gonna correct it. Too tough for me to type.
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Old 06-29-2011, 06:30 AM   #5
 
With adding fish it depends on what type of fish you want to add and fish capability. The key is to do your research first before you add them in to prevent any dramas in your tank

I've just started this hobby and am in the same boat as you still cycling my tank which does take a little while.

What i find is that there is alot of information on the net however ifyou have any doubts see the guys at your local fish stores they seem to know the best from what i experienced.

As for plants it probably would of been better to have them in your tank before you added fish. But never mind it all a learning curve.

Are you planning to put gravel as a median for the plants to grow in your tank?
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Old 06-29-2011, 06:41 AM   #6
 
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With adding fish it depends on what type of fish you want to add and fish capability. The key is to do your research first before you add them in to prevent any dramas in your tank

I've just started this hobby and am in the same boat as you still cycling my tank which does take a little while.

What i find is that there is alot of information on the net however ifyou have any doubts see the guys at your local fish stores they seem to know the best from what i experienced.

As for plants it probably would of been better to have them in your tank before you added fish. But never mind it all a learning curve.

Are you planning to put gravel as a median for the plants to grow in your tank?

I would not rely on information from local fish store employee's and or some owner's.
They often are interested more in selling fish and or chemical's that aren't needed than providing helpful info.
Does not apply to all,, but more than a few. Is often how folks wind up with unsuitable fishes for their tanks and or wildly fluctuating parameter's and armloads of medications.
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:00 AM   #7
 
I have got small rocks in the bottom of my tank, about pea size, I have found a guy in my area who specialises in aquatic plants only, so will write down the ones you've suggested and will get started. I am disappointed that tetras and guppies not mix, I LOVE the different guppies. Could I add livebearers (as they're the fish that appeal to me) when ready and have the neons as the only "softwater" fish (would they adapt?) in my tank. Would love suggestions about which fish I should aim to get, I love the brighter the better, don't like the catfish or the angel fish as I've heard they are aggressive. Don't want to mix the wrong type either. Is there a site you can go to and type in your tank size and you can get suggestions??
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:25 AM   #8
 
Ive got Neons, Bronze, Albino cory(Freeky white one, they stand out over dark gravel) all in my tank and they seem to get on pretty good.

Reason why i got the Corys is that they are bottom feeders so they helps with eating the food that settles on the floor, but you still have the clean the gravel though and as for the Neon for a bit of colour.

For the tank i have, which is a AR-850 I been told i could have a max of 15cm of fish would be my max bio load.

Check out Google for a website, i'm yet to find one. If you do find one could you please let me know

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I have got small rocks in the bottom of my tank, about pea size, I have found a guy in my area who specialises in aquatic plants only, so will write down the ones you've suggested and will get started. I am disappointed that tetras and guppies not mix, I LOVE the different guppies. Could I add livebearers (as they're the fish that appeal to me) when ready and have the neons as the only "softwater" fish (would they adapt?) in my tank. Would love suggestions about which fish I should aim to get, I love the brighter the better, don't like the catfish or the angel fish as I've heard they are aggressive. Don't want to mix the wrong type either. Is there a site you can go to and type in your tank size and you can get suggestions??
Tank size is important from size of fishes and numbers of fish, but water parameter's pH ,GH,temp, and compatibility are the key things to consider.
Livebearer's would prolly fair well with the ph you posted. Neons may or may not adapt but I would not buy many of these unless original eight seemed to be thriving three to six months from now. Pristella tetra's would be my choice, they adapt to varying water parameter's much more readily than most. IME
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Old 06-30-2011, 04:59 AM   #10
 
Gee never thought there was so much involved in choosing the fish, didn't think about ph, water hardness, temp etc, thought all fish liked the same water!! Like the look of the Pristella Tetras, hopefully my LFS will stock them, excited about adding more fish in the next ten days. Going to do a water change this evening (my first) so hopefully cycling will soon get underway, will try to go this weekend to get live plants. My tetras all appear very healthy at the moment, but my driftwood is growing a fine furry growth, think I need to boil it (read thats the only way I can get rid of it) will get a bristlenose sucker fish (think thats what its called) to keep the problem under control when I add fish in the future
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