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post #31 of 43 Old 11-11-2013, 08:12 AM Thread Starter
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pH is now 7.6, how long before I would expect the Nitrites to appear? My only concern with using the TSS is you are not supposed to do any water changes. So even if Nitrites spike you are supposed to just wait it out? Not using the TSS I feel I at least have some measure of control if I need to do a water change.
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post #32 of 43 Old 11-12-2013, 08:47 AM
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The fish come first regardless of any suggestions or instructions by the manufacturer. If at any time ammonia or nitrite rise >0.25ppm, you should do a 50% pwc and monitor carefully. Most keepers who I've talked to have had little to no problem with TSS.

If you feel uncomfortable about using any product, you should not use it. There is no penalty for going the longer natural route to cycling. You have my respect for taking this into account.

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post #33 of 43 Old 11-12-2013, 09:06 AM Thread Starter
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I added the TSS last night. The overwhelming number of good experiences others have had using it made me comfortable enough to go ahead and use it. pH still steady at 7.6 and ammonia levels were <.25. Now I suppose the waiting game begins. I plan on testing around 48hrs but if I know myself I'll want to test it tonight, lol.
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post #34 of 43 Old 11-12-2013, 05:06 PM
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Testing sooner is a good idea, if only for your own peace-of-mind. Your pH is optimum for a strong cycle. Please, keep us informed.
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post #35 of 43 Old 11-14-2013, 01:29 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, update. I tested the water this afternoon, hasnt even been 72hrs since adding the TSS. Here is results:

Ammonia - .25ppm
Nitrites - 0ppm
Nitrates - 5ppm
pH - 7.4

I'm wondering why I am not seeing Nitrites first. although I recall someone saying they experienced the same on several occasions with TSS. Any thoughts, comments, suggestions are appreciated.

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post #36 of 43 Old 11-15-2013, 07:06 AM
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Ntrite oxidizing bacteria (NOB) take longer to develop than AOB. It's a frustration point in cycling for many keepers.That's one of the nice things about TSS: it frequently powers right through nitrite.

Again, keep us informed.
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post #37 of 43 Old 11-15-2013, 05:46 PM Thread Starter
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Todays readings:

Ammonia: between .25-.50ppm
Nitrites: 0ppm
Nitrates: 5ppm

I'm a little concerned that the ammonia came up. Assuming I am ok for now and should test again tomorrow?

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post #38 of 43 Old 11-16-2013, 06:00 AM
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Do a 50% pwc. Try to keep the ammonia <0.25ppm. Even with TSS it takes more than a few days.
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post #39 of 43 Old 11-16-2013, 09:31 AM Thread Starter
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I thought you could not do a water change while cycling with TSS? I believe their instructions said it would be normal to see spikes up to 1.0ppm.
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post #40 of 43 Old 11-16-2013, 10:50 AM
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See my post above. Disregard any manufacturers' advice that would have your ammonia >0.25ppm.

Your pH is not too high and you're using Prime every day, so ammonia is not critical. But 1.0ppm is plain too much for livestock.

50% water changes will not affect the cycle.
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