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post #11 of 13 Old 08-31-2010, 01:23 AM
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awsome, thank you everyone for the great replies, I have been changing my water everyday since I got it and it seems to be getting better, some of my red devil cichlids developed some black spots from the ammonia i believe but I got an API nitrite and ammonia tester and they came out good for both, I am curious though why my water is still a yellowish tint though, I think some of it came from when i put in the gravel, can that be the situation? thanks again! also, I still plan on getting rid of most these fish, I just wanted them to be in a little better condition before I got rid of them.

These fish are not likely to be in better shape for you to find new homes for if current residents remain together. The water changes you are performing will buy you a little time,( days,weeks) but the territorial disputes and possible violence at feeding time, which I would expect, will result in fish looking tattered and wounds inflicted could result in secondary bacterial infections.
The Red devil will continue to assert it's dominance and other fishes will be on the receiving end.
Oscars when small.. are not all that aggressive andf may last a few months in current tank but they too,, become much less tolerant as they continue to grow. A healthy Red Devil,Oscar, should grow at the rate of around.one inch per month.
Filtration in this tank is critical along with the water changes you are performing. Filter should be capable of moving six to ei8ght times the volume of water that the tank holds each hour, (ie) 55X 8 = 440 gal per hour. Filter material such as pads,sponges,cartridges ,etc should be cleaned once each week in old aquarium water you take out during a water change.(large messy fish and waste producers)
This tank is cycling ,and I would not replace,filter material or clean it under tapwater,. for to do so,, will wipe out substantial amount of bacteria (good kind). Would expect possible cloudy conditions in the tank during this time which can sometimes be result of bacteria bloom which is a good thing, and it will clear on it's own in a few days to three weeks.
Would feed the fish as suggested earlier in this thread.
Also would leave substrate alone with exception of vaccuming say one third of the bottom once each week and a different area each time. Good bacteria also develops in or on the substrate as well as on the filter material and you do not want to disturb any more than necessary.
Please do not fool yourself into thinking that these particular fish will continue to thrive in current situation. What I have suggested will buy you as mentioned,a few more days,weeks.
I would be searching for new homes for the fish yesterday if not sooner.
Whoever stuck you with these fish did not do you or the fishes any favors.

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post #12 of 13 Old 08-31-2010, 03:05 AM Thread Starter
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yeah, i just put them on craigslist to try to re-house, if anything my local fish shop gives 1/3 of the retail price of the fish for store credit and I heard petco is obligated to take in fish, but I have no idea what they do to them
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yeah, i just put them on craigslist to try to re-house, if anything my local fish shop gives 1/3 of the retail price of the fish for store credit and I heard petco is obligated to take in fish, but I have no idea what they do to them
Sounds like a plan. the local Petco in my area though not obligated,,will take in fishes that they then place in holding tank for other such fish and if fishes do not appear sick,,then after a week or two, they offer them for sale at considerable discount.

Should you decide to get store credit from local fish store for these fish,, I would purchase five or six small active fish such as platy's or,, tetras such as Pritella, bloodfin,silvertipped,or glowlights and place them in the 55 gallon the same day you remove the cichlids.
Feed these five or six fishes sparingly once each day, about a half a dime size amount of food and monitor the water for ammonia and nitrites.
I believe in this way, your tank will continue to mature(cycle) without excess ammonia and nitrites so long as fishes are SMALL,not too numerous,and fed as described.
Otherwise ,once the fish are removed from the 55 gallon, you will need to add a pinch of flake food each day to help keep what good bacteria has begun to develop, alive.
Should you let the tank run with no fish or fish food for more than a day ,,the good bacteria will begin to die off.
The fishes I mentioned are as stated,, small fish that will create little bio-load in 55 gallons and are hardy enough to thrive and or tolerate moderately hard to alkaline water which I believe you mentioned in another thread.
Too many fish,too large of fish,and or overfeeding fish,will result in ammonia and nitrite levels becoming uncomfortable to lethal for the fish. Hope some of this helps.

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