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post #21 of 24 Old 09-19-2009, 02:40 PM
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According to the label on the bottle.....

START RIGHT with ALLANTOIN

COMPLETE WATER CONDITIONER REMOVES CHLORINE AND CHLORAMINE.

I dont understand.. It does not say it REMOVES AMMONIA.....
Exactly, so it won't. I use Kordon's NovAqua, and it does not remove ammonia, but i don't have ammonia in my tap water so it doesn't matter. You have ammonia in your tap water so a water conditioner that will remove ammonia aqlong with the deadly chlorine and chloramines would be a good choice for you.

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post #22 of 24 Old 09-19-2009, 02:44 PM
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LOL
I got ya BYRON thanks a MILLION....
well I am so GLAD I found this out NOW...... lol
you have been a BIG HELP....
I wish I we could have used the CHAT though
would have been alot faster for me ... lol
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post #23 of 24 Old 09-19-2009, 03:12 PM
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here is a thought I had...
if I were to put in all the live plants I have..
would that help bring the AMMONIA level down

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here is a thought I had...
if I were to put in all the live plants I have..
would that help bring the AMMONIA level down

thanks
Ron
Yes. Plants must have ammonium to grow, and ammonium comes from ammonia. In a tank with an acidic pH (below 7.0) the ammonia produced by the fish basically changes to ammonium and the plants use it. The nitrosomonas bacteria take what's left, but according to my research the plants are quicker at grabbing most of it. In tanks with a basic/alkaline pH (7.0 and higher) ammonia remains ammonia but plants have the capability of converting ammonia to ammonium internally, so they still grab the ammonia.

In your case, as you have ammonia in your tap water, I would still recommend using a good conditioner like Prime. I am not a biologist, so I do not know the precise rate at which plants (or bacteria for that matter) can use the ammonia that is suddenly thrust into the tank during a 40% partial water change. So to be safe, use Prime or a comparable conditioner. The plants will have enough ammonia from the fish once they are in the tank. And besides, Prime does not "remove" the ammonia, it detoxifies it. So the plants and bacteria can still use it. I believe Prime actually does this by converting the ammonia to ammonium (some such products do), so there is certainly no harm in using it.

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Vancouver, BC, Canada

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If youíre going to take it under your wing then youíre responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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