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post #1 of 11 Old 03-07-2011, 02:30 PM Thread Starter
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new tank

Yes I know this has probably been gone over to death by now but I need answers fast and I can't find exactly what I am looking for...

Day 1- Used tap water and Aqueon water conditioner and Nutrafin Aquaplus Water conditioner that came with my 6 GALLON FLUVAL EDGE. I have a couple fake plants, one live plant, and sand in this tank.

3/5/11
Parameters-
pH- 7.6
Ammonia- 0
Nitrite- 0
High range pH- 7.4

3/6/11
pH- 7.6
Ammonia- 0
Nitrite- 0
Nitrate- 0
high range pH- 8.2

Here's my question... I bought Tetra SafeStart and I want to cycle the tank with that and I want to do it fishless. So I will also get ammonia. Do I just put in ammonia (HOW MUCH??) and the TSS? Any Help at all would be great thank you. Will the ammonia spike and then fall back down to 0 (which is desirable right?).
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post #2 of 11 Old 03-07-2011, 05:31 PM
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First off, welcome to Tropical Fish Keeping forum.

At the head of this section of the forum is a "sticky" on cycling that may offer some insight to help you; here's a direct link:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...m-cycle-38617/

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post #3 of 11 Old 03-07-2011, 05:35 PM Thread Starter
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I saw that, thank you though. It just didn't say if using pure ammonia and TSS would start the cycle but since noones saying anything I guess it can't hurt to try it. Not sure how much of either though...
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post #4 of 11 Old 03-07-2011, 08:00 PM
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I saw that, thank you though. It just didn't say if using pure ammonia and TSS would start the cycle but since noones saying anything I guess it can't hurt to try it. Not sure how much of either though...
I have personally never used ammonia for a fishless cycle. I always have planted tanks so I don't need to worry about cycling as the plants handle the ammonia from day 1. I'm sure those with experience in this method will be along.

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post #5 of 11 Old 03-08-2011, 03:39 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you for your help, hopefully someone will explain soon.. I'm anxious to start it. I got ammonia today soooo..
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post #6 of 11 Old 03-08-2011, 04:00 PM Thread Starter
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I saw on another forum someone said do 5 drops to 10 gallon so I added 6 drops (meant to do less as I have a 6 gallon tank but it came out of my dropper too fast) and then I added 1/3 of a 3.38 oz bottle of TSS... So hoping it works :0
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post #7 of 11 Old 03-08-2011, 04:18 PM
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If you are doing a fishless cycle I would not bother with TSS as it is not needed. If you do choose to use it will speed up your cycle a bit, just make sure not to exceed 2 ppm ammonia or it will kill/slow the TSS bacteria.
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post #8 of 11 Old 03-08-2011, 04:21 PM Thread Starter
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So what if I test the ammonia and it's at 2? Thanks
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post #9 of 11 Old 03-08-2011, 04:54 PM
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Do a partial water change to reduce the ammonia concentration. So if the concentration was say 4ppm a 50% water change would drop the concentration to 2ppm
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post #10 of 11 Old 03-09-2011, 06:33 PM Thread Starter
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Ok yeah that makes sense. I haven't tested the water yet, I'm about to...I'm curious
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