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Old 08-27-2010, 07:17 PM   #11
 
Well the tank is already filled with water.. I had roughly 10 tanks around my house running for over 6months now.. all with nothing in them lol. So we took all that well cycled water and poured it into the 95G (Thats what Ima call it!) plus I took the filter cartridge out of the 29G filter.. for the media content and put my all powerful angel fish into the tank... still thriving just like he always does :P Think He's loving all the room and water flow vs the 29G. Also the Eco-Complete here is 29.99$ per 20LBs.. for a 95G tank, that is 60inches long and 17 1/8 inches wide... how many lbs would I need? Also the plants I'm not sure on yet.. the fish that are currently in the tank are my Angel, Dragon Fish (not a betta..), 1 Neon Tetra (He's friends died almost a year ago.. was in a super small tank (3g) so I never bought more once he got moved there.) 1 Red-Eye Tetra hangs out with my neon. And 6Guppies. 2Males, 4 Females. I plan to have it as a community tank, from what I hear.. all my fish are peaceful :D
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Old 08-28-2010, 01:31 PM   #12
 
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The tetra are characins and these must be kept in groups of each species, so upgrading to 6+ of the tetra is well advised.

Angels are also shoaling fish that should be in a group (except when breeding pairs are used for spawning), but adding angels to an existing angel can be troublesome if the existing fish is a male; he will view the tank as "his." If it's a female there is less concern, and I would definitely get 4 more.

Under gravel filtration was mentioned earlier, in a planted tank this will work but it is not the recommended choice of filter. A canister rated to the tank size (90g) would be better.

On low-tech natural planted tanks, all this and more is outlined in the series "A Basic Approach to the Natural Planted Aquarium" stickied at the head of the Aquarium Plants section of the forum. You might want to read through those for more background on the above and other issues.

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Old 08-28-2010, 03:59 PM   #13
 
Okay well I can take out the undergravel filters no problem.. but then I have nothing to sit my 2 extra powerheads on.. but I guess I'll think of something. the guy at my LFS sold me a bag of Eco-Complete today for only 14.99$ for a 20Lb bag! YES! SCORE Lol. So I'll be taking out the undergravel filters.. which are actually not underground atm becasue theres no substrate atm lol Anyhow... Any extra advice on stocking is welcomed. I plant to get at least 3-4 more angels, 8-10 more neon tetras and 5-7 more Red-Eyed tetras at the moment any other suggestions?
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Old 08-28-2010, 04:21 PM   #14
 
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Okay well I can take out the undergravel filters no problem.. but then I have nothing to sit my 2 extra powerheads on.. but I guess I'll think of something. the guy at my LFS sold me a bag of Eco-Complete today for only 14.99$ for a 20Lb bag! YES! SCORE Lol. So I'll be taking out the undergravel filters.. which are actually not underground atm becasue theres no substrate atm lol Anyhow... Any extra advice on stocking is welcomed. I plant to get at least 3-4 more angels, 8-10 more neon tetras and 5-7 more Red-Eyed tetras at the moment any other suggestions?
I personally wouldn't want the powerheads with the fish you already intend, they are all quiet water fish. With enough plants, something as simple as a sponge filter will do to gently circulate the water. This is a 90g (roughly), so I would consider a canister better, in time if not immediately. Eheim are excellent but expensive, Rena is half the cost, I have a new Rena on my 115g and Eheims on the others. Too early to tell about Rena's long-term performance. My Eheims have been running 12 years without any issues.

What are water parameters (tap)? So far we're talking soft acidic water fish that will manage in slightly basic (low 7's pH). This info will point us in the best direction.
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Old 08-28-2010, 04:28 PM   #15
 
Not 100% sure on water parameters yet. Taking a sample to my LFS monday. (I lost my dragon fish at around 2AM this morning.. woke up to alot of splashing and he was on top of the water going mad smacking into the glass tops. But he was the only loss thankfully not sure why, but I told the guy at my fish shop and he is ordering me another free of charge. Any and all freshwater fish from his shop if they die first one is free replacement for the first 3months. 2nd one is 1/2 off for the first 3 months. So either way not a bad deal. UG filters are out. The Eco-Complete is now added, water just cleared up. I have 2 HOB Bio-Wheel filters that to me do more then enough but the Angel fish and tetras actually seem to enjoy the powerheads.. they swim torward them then let them blow them back out and repeat. As for the guppies they stay more torward the bottom of the tank where there isn't as much flow... I really need some bottom dwellers and to get the "schools" of fish back up in numbers but don't want to do that untill I get the rest of my substrate bed made. Doing a 2" bed maybe 3" in some places for them long rooted plants. I have a fern the guy at the LFS gave me and said could survive with next to no light since I have no lights atm but I do have the tank RIGHT in front of a North Window with the shade up so they get lots of light during the day and a clip on light tonight right on the plant to help it. What kind of wattage of lights do I need for this tank? It's 60Inches log by 22inches deep more or less. Well thanks for help and your quick responses Byron.
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Old 08-28-2010, 04:40 PM   #16
 
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Fish sswim into currents because they expect food. When I do water changes there are several that frequently wim even into the end of the Python where the chlorinated water is coming out (conditioner goes into the tank so the water in the tube is not conditioned). Its a natural instinct to expect food to come past in a current. Also, they have to swim into a current to stay afloat. For angels I would suggest quieter flow.

For light (your plants will not last long-term without an overhead light) on a 5-foot I would get a twin tube T8 (regular) fluorescent fixture. That's what I have on my 5-foot 115g tank. You can mix tubes, and a full spectrum (around 6500K) plus a cool white (slightly higher Kelvin means "cool" or more blue in the colour). That's what I have on my tanks if you check out the photos under "Aquariums" under my name on the left. Does the tank have a hood? If not, a glass cover set (they are not expensive) to cover it, and then the light fixture sits across the frame. I bought two new ones last year to replace old ones that gave out, and I got All Glass fixtures. They seem to be well made, I really like the fixtures. The tubes that come with them are garbage, they went straight to recycling and I bought the afore-mentioned. Sylvania, Phillips, GE all make "daylight" or similar-named tubes, the Kelvin around 6500K is the important thing.
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Old 08-28-2010, 04:53 PM   #17
 
Well honestly.. This tank is a bit odd. I just tried to finish topping it off water wise with some of the water out of my 29G (Where I pre-cycle alot of water and declorify it.) and relizing.. this homemade tank is 1 1/2 Inches taller on the right side then the left side... and not only that but the front plates where the glass toppers sit the one on the left is moving slighlty at a downward angel lol... wondered why that topper fit funny. So I might just suck it up.. see what I can get from my LFS for the tank as far as a trade in.. and get a new/used 100-125-135G tank from him. I know he has a 135G tank with dual Overflows already built in and VHO lights for corals... but that might be to much overkill on a freshwater tank. (That and the tank is 899.99$ >.< WHICH IS ALOT out of my pocket lol.) Any advice tank wise with me finding these new "minor" problems with my current home made 95~G tank.. thats 30+ yrs old.. :P
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:29 AM   #18
 
Okay so new update on the tank. I have redone some of the stocking.. now there are

10-11 Ghost Shrimps (Not exactly sure how many.. these boogers don't stay still!)
1 Fiddler Crab (He's fun to watch :P, hanging out on a fake plant hooked to a fake log right now!)
1 Angel Fish (My Flourance!)
3 GloFish (I thought these where neon tetras.. there glofish by what wal-mart has them labeled as!)
3 Seprae Tetras (I thought these where red-eyes.. I was wrong. But Now I got the right species and a small group going on will add more as time goes on.)
Still the 4Females, 2 Males of guppies, but I think my grandmother might be coming to pick them back up today. (I'm babysitting BOO!)
And a Dragon fish when he comes in Friday/Saturday this next weekend. Any extra stocking ideas is welcome. I plan to get groups of 5 for the GloFish, and a group of 5-7 Of the Tetra at least. The Angel I'm tring to find some about his size to match up with him with 3 or 4 more. But any extra stocking ideas or such for a centerpieces and all that good jazz to make this community tank look good let me know. Also I need to kill some of the flow from my filters... I undid the powerheads like Byron suggested and the fish became alot more active out in the open water.. but the top still scares them away from the flow from the two HOB filters. Well thanks in advance and sorry for such a long and very all over the place post. But I just woke up and needed to get this in before I started my day! Thanks again in advance!
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Old 08-29-2010, 08:16 PM   #19
 
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whats stock list and no pics????? you know how we all love pics hehehehe. hows .the tank coming?? from what i read it looks like it going real well ^.^
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Old 08-30-2010, 06:50 PM   #20
 
It's okay so far... fish keeping coming up missing.. a guppy first.. which I happen to have found about 30mins ago inside a filter.. ALIVE STILL lol. I put him back into the tank and he's fine thankfully. My fiance is not liking the tank overall though... So she told me to go buy a FEW 55Gs from Petco with there sale going on and some stands for the tanks and I'm aloud to have 3 55G tanks and 1-3 10-20G Tanks if i promise to get rid of this current 95~G tank. Seem like a good trade off? I think so.. If I must I'll just split my guys up lol. But WIth this being said stocking options per tank is now open!
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