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Old 07-24-2011, 12:30 AM   #11
 
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Your 29g would be enough room for a shoal of the glass cats and a few other fish.

What other fish would you suggest?
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Old 07-25-2011, 12:23 AM   #12
 
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Well, a few factors to consider on tankmates...
1- The Glass Cats are said to need a higher pH, of 7 or greater, if I read correctly. So, you would have to read through some profiles, or get input from members who know pH needs of fish off the top of their heads.
2- Their temp is in the 70s so, any of the higher temp fish wouldnt work, which is okay since I have noticed a lot of higher temp fish, such as rams, need lower pH.
3- They need calm tankmates and limited current... in that department it would be fish like rasbora and maybe cherry barb, and some of the calmer nicer tetra, such as neon tetra.
4- They like soft to medium hard water, so livebearers are completely out due to this as well as them not being calm.
5- You could get away with them in the 29g, IMO, others may suggest longer due to the length needed, as they tend to be long. So, other fish would need to be smaller for sure, and limited in numbers, IMO.

I think Cherry barb are a nice fit, they do best though in larger groups though. But water parameter wise, they would work, and they are pretty calm fish.

Harlequin Rasbora would work if the pH is close to 7, but not higher.

Zebra Danio also work regarding water parameters. They arent super calm fish, but they arent too boisterous that they would disturb the glass catfish.

I hope this helps some.
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Old 07-25-2011, 12:55 AM   #13
 
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Well, a few factors to consider on tankmates...
1- The Glass Cats are said to need a higher pH, of 7 or greater, if I read correctly. So, you would have to read through some profiles, or get input from members who know pH needs of fish off the top of their heads.
2- Their temp is in the 70s so, any of the higher temp fish wouldnt work, which is okay since I have noticed a lot of higher temp fish, such as rams, need lower pH.
3- They need calm tankmates and limited current... in that department it would be fish like rasbora and maybe cherry barb, and some of the calmer nicer tetra, such as neon tetra.
4- They like soft to medium hard water, so livebearers are completely out due to this as well as them not being calm.
5- You could get away with them in the 29g, IMO, others may suggest longer due to the length needed, as they tend to be long. So, other fish would need to be smaller for sure, and limited in numbers, IMO.

I think Cherry barb are a nice fit, they do best though in larger groups though. But water parameter wise, they would work, and they are pretty calm fish.

Harlequin Rasbora would work if the pH is close to 7, but not higher.

Zebra Danio also work regarding water parameters. They arent super calm fish, but they arent too boisterous that they would disturb the glass catfish.

I hope this helps some.
Well perfect :) Cause im rebuilding/building my shoals for my danios (only have 5) and my cherry barbs (only have 3) and i just picked up 2 neons today cause i was given 1 yesterday along with some other fish, and tomorrow im picking up more fish to try and get all my shoals right

Need to get:
5 Pristella Tetras
4 red eyed tetra
4 danios
3 cherry barbs
3 neon tetras
1 black skirted tetra still lol
oh and another Blue or gold Gourami boy, if they have a boy, but that isnt a needed just something i want lol

Im hoping i can talk to someone i know who works at an animal shelter to see if they hve any bigger tanks like maybe a 40 if im lucky, which will only cost me like 20 bucks, and see if they have some gravel, filter and heater that i can buy too, no idea how much that will cost me, ill find out tomorrow cause i asked if they have 2 heaters and 1 filter for the tanks i already have, cause one of my 10's i just set up has no heater, and my other 10 that is just sitting there has no heater or filter, or even rocks, but rocks shouldnt be an issue
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:12 PM   #14
 
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Yeah, with the glass cats in the 29g, you probably would only have enough room for one other shoal of small fish, and maybe a small group of bottom feeders. Otherwise a larger tank would be needed for all the fish you are talking about, maybe even larger than a 40g, a 55g+ sounds best for if you want all those fish together.
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Old 07-28-2011, 04:56 PM   #15
 
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Yeah, with the glass cats in the 29g, you probably would only have enough room for one other shoal of small fish, and maybe a small group of bottom feeders. Otherwise a larger tank would be needed for all the fish you are talking about, maybe even larger than a 40g, a 55g+ sounds best for if you want all those fish together.

Well now all i have in my 29 is 2 neons, 3 cherry barbs, 7 danios, 1 Blue Grouami, and 1 precilla tetra. I have moved around my fish again, my 20 gallon has my other 2 Gold Grouamis, and my 6 black skirted tetras
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:16 PM   #16
 
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Well now all i have in my 29 is 2 neons, 3 cherry barbs, 7 danios, 1 Blue Grouami, and 1 precilla tetra. I have moved around my fish again, my 20 gallon has my other 2 Gold Grouamis, and my 6 black skirted tetras
I am sure you already know this, but just in case I want to say...
1- A 20g is too small for 2 gold gourami, I personally wouldnt even think it enough space for one. The tetra are fine, and a few more could be beneficial to limit any outside the group nipping.
2- cherry barbs, neons, and all tetra do best in a minimum group size of 6, high numbered groups being even better. It not only keeps nipping and aggression down in species prone to it, but it helps them feel safe, secure, and fills their social needs.

Good size danio group.
I dont know if I would trust a gourami with the glass cats, just my thought. I had an opaline, and although she was super gentle with her tankmates, I could have imagined her trying to eat a glass cat just by their appearance being so, clear. lol.

How do your three gourami get along? Blue Gourami as well as the gold, opaline, and other color patterns, just never seemed happy to me when with others of their species.
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Old 07-28-2011, 07:43 PM   #17
 
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I am sure you already know this, but just in case I want to say...
1- A 20g is too small for 2 gold gourami, I personally wouldnt even think it enough space for one. The tetra are fine, and a few more could be beneficial to limit any outside the group nipping.
2- cherry barbs, neons, and all tetra do best in a minimum group size of 6, high numbered groups being even better. It not only keeps nipping and aggression down in species prone to it, but it helps them feel safe, secure, and fills their social needs.

Good size danio group.
I dont know if I would trust a gourami with the glass cats, just my thought. I had an opaline, and although she was super gentle with her tankmates, I could have imagined her trying to eat a glass cat just by their appearance being so, clear. lol.

How do your three gourami get along? Blue Gourami as well as the gold, opaline, and other color patterns, just never seemed happy to me when with others of their species.

My tetras and barbs groups are small due to losses, i know they do better in bigger groups and im working on that, but not having a job and parents not having money to pay me to do some chores right now kinda makes it hard to do so

Did not know Grouramis needed more room than a 20 gallon, but thats okay cause im starting a job here soon and once i save up enough i have already planned on getting another 55 gallon for my fresh water fish
My blue grourami was doing fine with the new one i added, then i added a second one and the big blue one started picking on the 2 new smaller ones because they were spawning so i moved them over to the 20 gallon, their still small, so they should be fine i there for a little while

And as far as the glass cats go its just a though not a for sure
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Old 07-28-2011, 07:48 PM   #18
 
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Glad to hear the plans. I figured you knew about the group needs, just wanted to mention it just in case.
I know you are doing good by your fish, and thats the most important thing.
And yes, while the golds are small, the 20g should be fine.
Good luck on the job!
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Old 07-28-2011, 07:53 PM   #19
 
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Glad to hear the plans. I figured you knew about the group needs, just wanted to mention it just in case.
I know you are doing good by your fish, and thats the most important thing.
And yes, while the golds are small, the 20g should be fine.
Good luck on the job!
Ya lol, and i figured so, cause they seem quite happy and dont look upset or anything, probably happy to be out of the tiny tanks they were in at the pet store, and im so excited to start my new job, ill have spring break winter break and summer break off like the rest of my friends that are in school. and pretty much will be working while their in school and will get off about the same time they get out so im happy with that
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Sounds like awesome work hours!!! Congrats!!!
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