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post #11 of 84 Old 02-23-2012, 12:51 AM Thread Starter
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I also meant to add loaches in that group. I do want to try and get a group of fish to school together. I did take the suggestions of reading the cycling portion of the forum. It sounds like I should get live plants to help further along the cycling process, and also counteract the bioload from the fish...Was I reading that right?
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post #12 of 84 Old 02-23-2012, 12:54 AM Thread Starter
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I asked Mikaila about the fish you had in mind and your tank specs and this is what i got :D

[Mikaila31] 12:37 am: you would use canister filters or a sump
[Mikaila31] 12:37 am: sump would be cheaper
[Mikaila31] 12:38 am: you would at least 2 big canisters

[Mikaila31] 12:42 am: only one he could have is a silver really....
[Mikaila31] 12:42 am: if that
[Andarial] 12:43 am: I love arrows though they are just too predatory for anything to be keppt with
[Mikaila31] 12:43 am: 125 might be too small
[Andarial] 12:43 am: yeah I think a 125 would be too small
[Mikaila31] 12:43 am: silvers are the only arrows that mix with other fish well
[Mikaila31] 12:43 am: and they get bigger then the others
[Mikaila31] 12:43 am: jardini look sweet, but they kill anything you put with them lol
[Andarial] 12:44 am: but they still have the possibility of eating anything you put in their tank XD
Sorry i was reading the chat, was that regarding my situation and tank? And what exactly are silvers, are they discus?
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Wow my bad, completely missed what you said at the top of your post. I really appreciate you going out and asking someone that you knew for me. Good stuff. I'm looking at a sump of some sort? I did take a look at some canisters online, and man do those things cost some money!
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Wow my bad, completely missed what you said at the top of your post. I really appreciate you going out and asking someone that you knew for me. Good stuff. I'm looking at a sump of some sort? I did take a look at some canisters online, and man do those things cost some money!
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Not a problem. You have no idea how much everyone on here has already helped me out (my fish are breathing because of everyone haha)

Yea they do. You can make one for way less...look in the DIY section. They work just as well. That way you can get some serious filtration while keeping the cost down.

The silvers are arrows. They were saying that they are the most compatible but all arrows are usually aggressive.

Tazman can help you out a lot more than I can. He will point you in the right direction.
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Leak test it as well? Or was it filled recently?
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Arowana is a no, tank is too small, they need a 180g or bigger.

Discus need pristine water conditions and may not be the best for a beginner until the tank is totally stable.

Oscars, can be great to keep but I would only keep one in a 125g as they can be very aggressive with 2 or more fish unless you buy a pair.

Loaches, I would perhaps base your stock around the Clown Loach, makes for a colorful tank with a school of fully grown ones, they get large as well (12").

If it was me, I would look at Lake Malawi cichlids and consider Placidochromis phenochilus, or Protomelas spilonotusas the "show fish" with yellow labs(Labidochromis caeruleus ), Pseudotropheus sp. "Acei" (yellow tail), and some Iodotropheus sprengerae (Rusty cichlid).

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75g Saltwater Reef, Ocellaris Clownfish, Lyretail Antias (baby), Lemon damsel, Longtail Fairy Wrasse, purple dottyback, snails, crabs and a few LPS corals.

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I am seeing a lot of good advise here BUT the central point has been missed. What have you got for water? PH high or low? Hardness? You are considering fish with varying water needs although most you have mentioned want soft acid water being South Americans.

Test your water first then decide on fish. It gets expensive fighting Mother Nature. Select fish that are comfortable with straight tap water to start. As your experience level grows then you can start fighting Mother Nature.

As far as a filter my recommendation would be a ODESSEA canister. Mine is a year+ old and have had no problems. For $59 shipped it is cheaper than most HOB.
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post #18 of 84 Old 02-23-2012, 10:45 AM Thread Starter
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Currently I have nothing set up. Thats why I am getting the information from you guys to get started. The whole filtration right now is my main concern. I do plan on cycling my tank as well, I wanted to get everything running and as close to perfect conditions, and then I'll start to consider what fish I can and might add. I am steering away from Arrows now, they were a recommendation from a friend, but I am more than willing to take yalls advice about that. As far as the leak test, the tank was filled 3 months ago, but I was thinking about that alot. I want to make sure everything is suitable and ready before I go along with the project. I was thinking I will do a leak test, and if I have to reseal anything just to be sure, I will do so accordingly.

125Gal: 7 Silver Dollars, 1 Albino BN Plecos, 1 Green Terror, 1 Gold Severum, Red Severum, 8 Rio Cahals, and 2 Festivum

55Gal: 3 German Blue Rams, 2 Bolivian Rams, 1 Super Red Pleco, 9 Bloodfin Tetras, and 9 Oto Catfish

29Gal: Quarentine/Hospital Tank

20Gal: Female Pastel Ball Python
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I am seeing a lot of good advise here BUT the central point has been missed. What have you got for water? PH high or low? Hardness? You are considering fish with varying water needs although most you have mentioned want soft acid water being South Americans.

Test your water first then decide on fish. It gets expensive fighting Mother Nature. Select fish that are comfortable with straight tap water to start. As your experience level grows then you can start fighting Mother Nature.

As far as a filter my recommendation would be a ODESSEA canister. Mine is a year+ old and have had no problems. For $59 shipped it is cheaper than most HOB.
What size tank do you have?

125Gal: 7 Silver Dollars, 1 Albino BN Plecos, 1 Green Terror, 1 Gold Severum, Red Severum, 8 Rio Cahals, and 2 Festivum

55Gal: 3 German Blue Rams, 2 Bolivian Rams, 1 Super Red Pleco, 9 Bloodfin Tetras, and 9 Oto Catfish

29Gal: Quarentine/Hospital Tank

20Gal: Female Pastel Ball Python
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Also, this would be the time you might wish to paint the back of the tank Black so that your fish will show up real nice. Get an API test kit for the fresh water aquarium. The liquid, not the strips. Test your source water and let us know what your water parameters are. Call your water department and get information from them about the hardness/softness of the water. Then you can go from there.


You know for sure you want Cichlids so you can get yourself some gravel that you like. Look up pictures of tanks then chose what you like to look at and begin moving forward from there. Can't wait to see pictures of your new tank as it progresses.

Oh, and Welcome to the forum.

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