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Old 01-08-2014, 09:15 AM   #1
 
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Hi all...I'm new to fishkeeping. I think I've made just about every mistake there is to make. I did follow the directions that came with the tank though. But, should have done more research before I began.
I was given a 5 gallon GLOFISH tank for Christmas. I have a mini heater, whisper bio filter, and airstone in the tank. I bought gravel and decorations made for a Glofish tank. I rinsed out the aquarium (using no chemicals) and washed all of the decor as well. I put all the chemicals in to get rid of chlorine, etc. I used Tetra Safe start plus. It has bacteria in it. I used Tetra AquaSafe Plus. It makes the water safe for fish. I used Tetra Easy Balance which maintains healthy water.
I also put some aquarium salt in the tank.
I let the tank run for 2 days before I bought fish.
I bought 5 glofish tetras.
After about 3 or 4 days they all developed ICK. I've been treating for that, but no luck. I did remove the carbon filter before treating with med's. I'm using Tetra ICK guard. It is obviously not working! I've had one death and there is one ready to die right now. None of the fish look healthy. The fins are all torn looking too. They are hiding too.
I've tested the water and all looks okay. But, I've been using the cheap test strips. I'm sure those aren't as accurate as the other methods of testing water.
Oh...our water is filtered. We have a filter system for the entire house.
The fish aren't eating either.
I know I have way too many fish for a 5 gallon tank. I should probably have only 1 or 2.
I don't know if I bought a bad batch of fish...I bought them at PetSmart. Or I didn't set up the tank properly.
What should I do? Keep treating for ICK? Start over?
It's frustrating.
Ive spent a small fortune on everything I've bought and I don't want to give up so easily. I want it to work.
Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

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Old 01-08-2014, 09:27 AM   #2
 
Your experiences are very similiar to mine many decades ago.

I would consider a 10g if you can afford.

Also read the link in my signature. all the problems you experienced would not have happened if you followed those procedures.

Or at least that is what has worked from me.

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Old 01-08-2014, 01:20 PM   #3
 
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Tetras are sensative to salt so I would stop adding and do a few water changes to eliminate it from the tank. A new tank should cycle for at least two weeks before adding fish, probaly longer, but scince you already have them in, you should do at least 25% water changes at least every two days. If your water is healthy you should have no problem with ich. What looks like ich is often just poor water quality. Fish become stressed and weak in poor water and vulnerable to all kinds of fungus and bacteria. Chances are that if you perfect your water you will see immediate improvment with your fish.
Ammonia and nitrites are deadly to fish so its essential that for a 5 gallon tank you change water often, even after it becomes established. A 5 is too small to support fish for long without removing some of the spent water and replacing with fresh.
I, too commited every mistake possible when I first started fishkeeping, so live and learn. You'll be a pro if you stick with it and never stop learning!

Please keep us posted on your project and good luck.

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Old 01-08-2014, 04:24 PM   #4
 
Angry All fish died

Unfortunately all of my fish died today. Now what? I want to start over and do it the correct way this time. I want to keep the 5 gallon tank....I have it on my desk. How do I start over?
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:24 AM   #5
 
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So sorry to hear that you lost all your fish, that sucks. But now you have a golden oppurtunity to do it right!
I would leave the tank set up with heater and filter runningso you can finish cycling the tank. Your fish probaly died from ammonia poisoning. Good thing is that now that yu have ammonia, you can start growing the bacteria colonies that will stabilize your tank.
You can make a 5 gallon tank work, but you will need to change a gallon or two of the water about twice per week.
First stage bacteria convert the ammonia in your tank into nitrite, which is still very toxic to fish, so I wouldn't add any fish yet. Second stage bacteria convert nitrite into nitrAte, which is much less toxic. So don't add fish till test results show very low ammonia and nitrite, and some amount of nitrAte being produced. That's the nitrogen cycle in a nutshell- ammonia to nitrite...nitrite to nitrate. Nitrate is still harmfull to fish if you let it accumulate in your tank so that's what the waterchanges are for.
I would reccommend some live plants to further stabilize your tank.
Establishing a healthy cycle in your tank can take a long time ,up to six weeks in my experience, but usualy closer to 2-3 weeks. Your tank is already part of the way there.
Don't worry about draining and sanitizing your tank for fear of ich. If you allow 14 days with no fish in the tank, the ich will die out for lack of a host. Just keep your heater on.
Good luck and please keep us posted
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Old 01-09-2014, 06:11 AM   #6
 
Thanks

Thanks so much for the advice. I appreciate it. I'm going to invest in a good water testing kit. I will definitely keep you posted on what happens next.
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:14 AM   #7
 
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Unfortunately all of my fish died today. Now what? I want to start over and do it the correct way this time. I want to keep the 5 gallon tank....I have it on my desk. How do I start over?

Very sorry to hear.

I recommend you try the methods in the link in my signature.

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Old 01-09-2014, 10:58 AM   #8
 
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^ no!! Don't do what he says . If you want to read the link read it ALL. It's so faulty this method
Skylight is the one to be listening to. And I second what he says .


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Old 01-09-2014, 11:46 AM   #9
 
Whatever you do I hope you start again with live plants and let things settle in for a week. that way the plants will consume ammonia, condition the water, consume carbon dioxide and add oxygen.

then add a fish and not feed for a week.

then add 4 more glofish.

In that way you will have no ammonia spikes and provide the fish a low carbon dioxide high oxygen environment.

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Old 01-09-2014, 03:21 PM   #10
 
Question Question

While I'm letting my tank cycle do I need to do water changes? Should I be testing the water as the tank goes through the cycle?
Thanks so much for everyones advice
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