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post #21 of 29 Old 03-26-2009, 12:39 PM
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ahh thanks I do close the blinds all the way but they dont work very well and if I walk by when there lights are off they all see me and think they are gonna be fed, so it makes me think they arent gettin any sleep so i put the towel on it. They actually think they are gonna be fed everytime i am near the tank is that weird? I feed them twice a day.

I went to petco and I remembered why I havent bought a test kit cause that master liquid test kit was 32$ and the single test strips (onefor ammonia etc.) were 10 dollars each. Maybe i'll try walmart. Do those magnetic algae things work well?

Yeah I was leaning towards cory's, I just want something for algae control like some shrimp maybe. I was also thinking about a crawfish cause I've eaten so many that I feel I owe them something.

Fish recognize you as the source of food, so it is only natural they will respond accordingly. If you feed your fish at approximately the same time every day, you will probably find that they will only respond at that time and not later. I feed flake/tablet foods in the morning, sometime between 30 and 90 minutes after the lights come on. If I go into the fish room right after the lights come on, there is scarcely any response from the fish, but if I go in an hour after, they are all at the top left corner (the spot I feed from). At any subsequent time during the day, there is also no response when I go into the room. Except in the early evening, when I feed frozen foods, and again there is a response at that time.

Tank lights on for 12 hours regularly is OK. Don't worry about the rest.

I would recommend that you find a reputable fish store in your area and get to know them; by fish store I mean a store than specializes in pets, whether just fish or pets in general. Such stores usually have hobbyists as employees, and the advice they can give you is invaluable, not only when you encounter trouble but before you buy fish or supplies. Which brings me to the last point. You can't just put any fish together in one tank and expect to have no trouble. Each species has specific requirements relating to water parameters, foods, behaviour and compatibility. I would not put crawfish in a tropical tank with your other fish you've mentioned. It is important to know what the fish are before considering whether or not you want them. The aquarium must be set up from the start for the fish you intend to keep.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #22 of 29 Old 03-27-2009, 03:30 PM Thread Starter
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ok my tests were 0 ammonia 0 nitrites and 10-20 nitrates. I did them twice to double check if i was doing it right, so this mean its cycled right?
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post #23 of 29 Old 03-27-2009, 05:02 PM
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nice results,
looks like you r doing ok.

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #24 of 29 Old 03-27-2009, 06:43 PM Thread Starter
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ok so my plans are 3-5 cory's and 5-6 neon tetras and a ghost shrimp or two. Would that be a good tank since I already have 3 plattys
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From earlier posts, you have a 20g that has been running for a month, it contains 3 platys, and water tests are good. Yes, the tank is cycled for what it holds. I wouldn't recommend adding 6 neons and 3 corys at once. Add the 6 neons, wait a few days, then add the corys.

This is a small ecosystem. The nitrosomonas and nitrobacter bacteria have established themselves at a level to handle the available food they need. Suddenly increasing the bioload will mean more ammonia than the nitrosomonas can handle, and subsequently the nitrobacter--and that means you will have first an ammonia and then a nitrite spike and at the least stressed fish (which could lead to disease) and at the worst fish loss. It has to be gradual, especially in a small tank. The bacteria reproduce by splitting in half (called fission) and can do this fairly quickly when the food source (ammonia, or nitrite as the case may be) is present, but not immediately. Of course, the larger the tank and the greater the established bioload, the easier it is to add new fish.

And I would add the neons first, then the corys, only because corys are very sensitive to water conditions and will have less of a shock with a more mature system. Yes, this will be a very nice display. I didn't notice if your pH was mentioned; neons and corys prefer slightly acidic (below 7) but can be acclimated to around neutral, whereas platys prefer alkaline (above 7), but should be OK at neutral.

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The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #26 of 29 Old 06-09-2009, 03:17 AM
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Unhappy Cracked front glass

Hi There,
When I set up my new tank, I ommitted the step of putting a new piece of particleboard or MDF (Mellamine) under it....The nett result is that i awoke one morning to find my tank at 1/3 capacity, due to a large crack in the front glass.
I think that costcutting and not getting a new piece of particleboard cut to size has now cost me an unnecessary $180 or so. I'm determined to be thorough this time......does everybody agree that the old warped piece of MDF may have led to the crack?....I'm interested in your opinions.
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post #27 of 29 Old 06-09-2009, 05:18 AM
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hi
how awful to wake up to that.
the warping in the MDF could well have helped to crack the glass,i think.
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post #28 of 29 Old 06-12-2009, 03:20 AM
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Hi there,
At least I didn't lose any fish! Thanx for your feedback - I'll make sure that I don't cost-cut again when re-setting up. This time I'm going to put new MDF down, even though it's a bit expensive for wood here.....I think you'll agree that it's cheaper then having to buy a new tank!
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post #29 of 29 Old 06-12-2009, 10:53 AM
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good luck jewels. :)
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