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post #41 of 49 Old 09-02-2010, 12:23 PM
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You have to remove the the anchors before planting the plants?? I didnt do that shoot!! i was told I didnt have to by the LFS
It is a good idea too. If lead they will leech into the water, and while this will likely be insignificant, one less toxic substance in the water is preferable. Shouldn't be difficult to remove though; I assume these were around stem plants, you can move them quite a bit without harm.

In general, plants should be removed from pots, most (as much as you can) or the rock wool removed if grown in that, metal strips removed, rubber bands or ties removed--you get the idea.

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post #42 of 49 Old 09-02-2010, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
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My plants didn't come with any weights attached. Just roots. Sure wish the water would clear up!

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post #43 of 49 Old 09-02-2010, 12:27 PM
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Wow! So many posts. Ok so here are my answers to all the questions.

Thanks for the compliment on the tank Inga!

redchigh I have no idea what you are referring to about the tank being around 7...

The Drift wood is about hand size and I have little hands (no more than 6 in by 2 in), it was the smallest piece I could find, I don't think that's the issue.

The lighting is LED which is built into the filter. Wish the box would tell me the info I need to know to figure out the wavelength they are emitting. Been considering getting a desk lamp and putting a grow bulb in that for added light.

Yes the filter is running, this is not the undergravel air filter I originally planned on using.

I put about 0.5 in of laterite under about 3 inches of black sand (didn't mix them), throughout the tank, too much? I think this is what's causing the water to be so ugly, and why I did such a big water change yesterday, and why I haven't put fish in yet. This morning, it's not so bad yet but we'll see how it looks this afternoon.

Ammonia is ok according to the thing I have hanging on the side of the tank. I had dip strips until my dog found them on the floor and preceded to chew the plastic container yesterday! I'm going to be getting a liquid test kit later today.

Now I have a question. While I was cleaning the water yesterday I noticed that there were some spots, like one of the bulbs I have in there that had this stuff that sorta looked like hazy goo around it. I don't know how else to describe it. Is that normal, or is that decay?
Half an inch of laterite is a fair bit. But with 3 inches of sand over it, I wouldn't expect what you're seeing. May still be that wood, if new it can be quite tannic. That is harmless anyway. I think you're OK to let things settle and see what happens.

The "stuff" might be fungus or bacteria. Try gently removing it with your fingers from where it is (without uprooting I mean). If either of these, it will easily come away, and take it out of the water.

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post #44 of 49 Old 09-02-2010, 12:31 PM Thread Starter
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Correction it's probably more like 1.5 in of sand...I mistyped.

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Correction it's probably more like 1.5 in of sand...I mistyped.
Just went back over this thread, I like to ensure I recollect all the facts so I don't mis-advise. This is a 3g tank, correct? With half an inch of laterite and 1.5 inches of sand. I think this needs removing. That is too much laterite, and probably is the source of the water discolouration. But the serious aspect is the toxic effect on fish (and plants).

This is not so difficult, as there are no fish. Take a bucket with a hose like you use for the water changer, remove the large end so you just have the hose which will probably be about 1/2 inch or so diameter. Then start the siphon but hold the end in the tank just above the sand and remove as much of it as you can; it will readily come up the tube with water. Don't get down to the laterite if you possibly can help it. When you have as much of the sand removed, then remove most of the laterite (some sand will undoubtedly be mixed in). Keep it is a sealed jar. With just a tiny bit of "laterite" mix on the bottom, not enough to constitute a layer--you should see it as nothing more than tiny spots here and there as if the tank bottom is dusty a bit--replace the top sand. The aim is as little laterite as possible, very little.

Laterite is only iron clay; plants do not require as much iron as some would have you believe, and provided it is balanced with the other nutrients and light, plants will do well.

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post #46 of 49 Old 09-02-2010, 01:04 PM Thread Starter
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It's a 5 gal tank. I think I'll definitely be taking that out like you suggested. Is 5 gal too small to make a planted tank?

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It's a 5 gal tank. I think I'll definitely be taking that out like you suggested. Is 5 gal too small to make a planted tank?
You can have a beautiful planted tank in a 5g. Small species plants of course, but there are a lot of those. And the nice thing is, that taller "background" plants can be some of the medium-small plants that would never serve this purpose in large tanks.

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I do have another substrate under the black sand, I used First Layer Pure Laterite for planted aquariums. and i didn't have enough so i put the black sand over, more estically pleasing as well. the drift wood is on the small size, about the size of my hand, i have small hands.

as for the fish, i think i'll be putting a betta in the tank...just not till i figure out this water thing.
A Betta would be a perfect addition to that size of tank. They have a lot of personaity and really enjoy a planted tank. They do like having floating plants to hide in as well such as hornwort or water sprite. Just remember only one betta per tank or they'll kill one another.

1 Red Veiltail named Jasper
1 Bluish Purple female Betta named Alice
1 Jack Russell Daschund mix named Russ
1 Border Collie Mix named "Just Jack"
1 21 month old daughter named Ayla

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post #49 of 49 Old 09-03-2010, 10:26 AM Thread Starter
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Well I've got bad news! While I was trying to get the laterite out I busted the tank!!!! :O( SO SAD. went and bought another unbreakable one last night. kept 2 of the plants and the wood. I'll have new photos up shortly.

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Cat
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