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post #11 of 42 Old 10-12-2011, 02:12 PM
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I was still looking up all the clade members that I could find. I don't think I'd ever try the Serpae in any size tank. That's just me after hearing their reputation. The Bleeding Heart is too big, while the Lesser Bleeding Heart and Flameback Bleeding Heart are rare (i'm guessing they are both in the clade anyway). The Robert's and Rosy look so similar to me that I would have just gone with one or the other. Of the two Phantoms I was thinking of the Blak and mixing it with the Robert's. Water changes aren't a problem for me to do but since I'm doing a blackwater biotope there's no plants besides which ever floater I get. So I'd probably be better off thinking of another combination. Thank you for all the advice. You gave me some good guidance and things to think about. Definitely put my mind at ease.
Roberts Tetra (Hyphessobrycon bentosi) is my all-time favourite from this clade. The display of the males is something to behold. And this species works very well with Black Phantom, I had them together in my 115g before the Phantom naturally died off. I periodically add young Roberts to keep that shoal. They do spawn, but I let nature take its course and the other hundred-odd fish have a good meal each time. Rummynose look nice with these too.

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Roberts Tetra (Hyphessobrycon bentosi) is my all-time favourite from this clade. The display of the males is something to behold. And this species works very well with Black Phantom, I had them together in my 115g before the Phantom naturally died off. I periodically add young Roberts to keep that shoal. They do spawn, but I let nature take its course and the other hundred-odd fish have a good meal each time. Rummynose look nice with these too.
Now I am officially jealous. Some day I hope to have an aquarium that size. Glad to see there is someone else out their who's first thought about a large aquarium isn't large fish. Although with some that big I might actually allow myself some centerpiece fish. Do you have any other characins in there? I'm just curious.
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Now I am officially jealous. Some day I hope to have an aquarium that size. Glad to see there is someone else out their who's first thought about a large aquarium isn't large fish. Although with some that big I might actually allow myself some centerpiece fish. Do you have any other characins in there? I'm just curious.
To save listing all 130+ fish, check the stocking of the tank under "Aquariums" below my name on the left. I recently revised the photos and data so those are my present tanks, minus the one holding some newer fish. B.

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To save listing all 130+ fish, check the stocking of the tank under "Aquariums" below my name on the left. I recently revised the photos and data so those are my present tanks, minus the one holding some newer fish. B.

Beautiful tanks all of them. I'm now currently staring at my hardscape wondering if I can improve after seeing all your aquariums. Sorry I didn't realize about being able to view your tanks before. I might have asked a lot less dumb questions.

I was playing around on AqAdvisor, knowing it's just a guide and not exact but came up with this.

8 x Garnet Tetra (Hemigrammus pulcher)
7 x Ornate Tetra (Hyphessobrycon bentosi)
7 x Black Phantom Tetra (Hyphessobrycon megalopterus)
5 x Panda Cory (Corydoras panda)
5 x Three Lined Cory (Corydoras trilineatus)


I tried to follow most of your guidelines as much as I understood them, although I went less on the Corys and heavier on the tetras. AqAdvisor listed that as 65% with a 23 % weekly water change. I would change more than that though.
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Beautiful tanks all of them. I'm now currently staring at my hardscape wondering if I can improve after seeing all your aquariums. Sorry I didn't realize about being able to view your tanks before. I might have asked a lot less dumb questions.

I was playing around on AqAdvisor, knowing it's just a guide and not exact but came up with this.

8 x Garnet Tetra (Hemigrammus pulcher)
7 x Ornate Tetra (Hyphessobrycon bentosi)
7 x Black Phantom Tetra (Hyphessobrycon megalopterus)
5 x Panda Cory (Corydoras panda)
5 x Three Lined Cory (Corydoras trilineatus)

I tried to follow most of your guidelines as much as I understood them, although I went less on the Corys and heavier on the tetras. AqAdvisor listed that as 65% with a 23 % weekly water change. I would change more than that though.
Thank you indeed. That plan is fine. Still room for some hatchets on top.

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Thank you indeed. That plan is fine. Still room for some hatchets on top.
Hooray!!!! I did it. I'll definitely look into the Carnegiella species you mentioned especially the marble. Since they have more moderate care they'll most likely be what I add last if I get any. It also depends on my success with the plants since your profiles said they really need floaters to thrive.
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Hooray!!!! I did it. I'll definitely look into the Carnegiella species you mentioned especially the marble. Since they have more moderate care they'll most likely be what I add last if I get any. It also depends on my success with the plants since your profiles said they really need floaters to thrive.
Good plan. All those fish need floating plants though, in my humble opinion anyway. It really is amazing what a difference a few floating plants can make to forest fish in terms of colouration, activity, behaviours. I probably would myself be skeptical if I did not have first-hand experience.

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I plan to try my best with the floating plants. I had bad luck with my first batch after some really good growth. I think my problem was nutrients so I have fertilizer now. If I fail again with the plants I'll have the light that came with the tank. I also have driftwood and Indian almond leaves to add tannins which will help cut down the amount of light.
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Still biding my time and doing research which I love so I figured I'd ask. Could I replace the possible addition of the hatchets with Hyphessobrycon heliacus? I'm reading it prefers the top portion of the tank and is even smaller than the marble hatchetfish.
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Still biding my time and doing research which I love so I figured I'd ask. Could I replace the possible addition of the hatchets with Hyphessobrycon heliacus? I'm reading it prefers the top portion of the tank and is even smaller than the marble hatchetfish.
This is not a species I am personally familiar with, but it seems quite a beauty. Small, just over an inch max, and from what I can find probably a good community fish. It does not seem to be a surface fish in the same way as the hatchetfish; preferring the upper half of the water means it will remain in the middle-to higher area. My Hemigrammus pulcher (which resembles this newer species) does this. My hatchets are above them.

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