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Old 11-10-2007, 09:06 PM   #1
 
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Hi I just purchased a 55 gallon tank from someone today. It was already established. I purchased it with 2 Black Skirt Tetras, 5 Red Eyed Tetras, 1 Bala Shark, 2 Algae Eaters, 1 Crawdad, 2 unknown babies, and 1 unknown orange fish. I was told not to disturb the gravel as much as possible and it was real dirty. So I scrubbed the tank with a algae scrubber, and then started adding water, once filled, I put the fish into the tank in a ziplock for about 15 min. Then I scooped them out and placed them in the tank. I did add the cholrantor stuff, and stress coat. As both were highly recommended. I also replaced the filters as her were dirty.

Is there anything else I need to know. All the help I can get will be appreciated. I did go to store and purchase some decor that makes the bubbles, and added a bubble wand, My water is roughly 74 degrees. Can you add to many bubble things and it hurt the fish? I know I need a new pump, as the one I have isn't enough to supply all the ones I have.

Is special food, i should be feeding them? The tank came with some Goldfish food, I purchased some for Tetras.
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:45 PM   #2
 
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Hi I just purchased a 55 gallon tank from someone today. It was already established. I purchased it with 2 Black Skirt Tetras, 5 Red Eyed Tetras, 1 Bala Shark, 2 Algae Eaters, 1 Crawdad, 2 unknown babies, and 1 unknown orange fish. I was told not to disturb the gravel as much as possible and it was real dirty. So I scrubbed the tank with a algae scrubber, and then started adding water, once filled, I put the fish into the tank in a ziplock for about 15 min. Then I scooped them out and placed them in the tank. I did add the cholrantor stuff, and stress coat. As both were highly recommended. I also replaced the filters as her were dirty.
Hi Tiffany and welcome to Fishforum.com.

I hope you don't mind if I recommend some of these inhabitants returned to the lfs. I would recommend turning over to your lfs the bala shark, crawdad, and algae eaters if these are really Chinese Algae Eaters. CAE's are quite aggressive as they mature and will continuously harass their tankmates. Balas grow potentially large and at 12 inches, a 55 gallons will be cramping and as these require to be in a group, a 300 gallons would be the minimum. Crayfish are ambush predators and if given the opportunity, they will eventually harm their tankmates.

Any pictures of the algae eaters and the others that are not identified?

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Is there anything else I need to know. All the help I can get will be appreciated. I did go to store and purchase some decor that makes the bubbles, and added a bubble wand, My water is roughly 74 degrees. Can you add to many bubble things and it hurt the fish? I know I need a new pump, as the one I have isn't enough to supply all the ones I have.
The bubbles produced don't look natural however the surface movements they make allows sufficient supply of oxygen. Temp should be increased to 76-80 as your fish are tropical species. You'll need two heaters so that in case one gets blown out, the other will continue to work preventing disastrous results such as massive fish deaths due to sudden temperature change. Visitherm, Sera and Eheim will work. Check Products, Service and Equipments Reviews section for more heater reviews.

Do you have a test kit? If not, get API liquid test kit. Avoid test strips which are often misleading. Check your ammonia, nitrites, nitrates and pH regularly. Use dechlorinator before you try to do a water change to eliminate chlorine and chloramine. Tetra Aquasafe would be your best bet.

If anyone tells you to use aquarium salt, don't do it. They are useless in my opinion but are useful for emergency cases such as ich although table salt should work anyway. I don't care how people say iodine can harm the fish but the lack of iodine can result to goiter anyway.

Please let us know your water parameters. If you detect ammonia and nitrites, do a water change of 30-40% immediately. Nitrates should not exceed beyond 40 ppm. As for filter media, there is no need to replace them unless they become worn out. Cleaning them is done by use of old tank water or dechlorinated water as beneficial bacteria is very important and will be lost if you use detergents, hot water and water containing chlorine. No need to use detergents when cleaning the tank as any residues can kill the fish. Sponges, filter floss, lava rocks, ceramic rings and others are enough for the filter. Store activated carbon in your cabinet for emergency cases. They are not necessary unless you intend to remove medicines, tannins, odor and other contaminants in your tank.

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Is special food, i should be feeding them? The tank came with some Goldfish food, I purchased some for Tetras.
The main idea is to always vary the food menu. Bloodworms, tubifex worms, earthworms, daphnia, brine shrimps, blackworms, daphnia, mosquito larva, shrimps and many more can be used. Do research the dietary requirements of the fish before you feed them. Most fish that require green matter will be prone to bloat when fed with foods with very high protein content such as bloodworms.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:07 AM   #3
 




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Old 11-11-2007, 10:16 AM   #4
 
Thanks for the Welcome.

What is lfs? I'm new to whole fish thing.

I had planned on releasing the crawdad but had planned to keep him til warmer weather as it's winter here now, and its like 40 outside. Plus we had a drought this year and most bodies of water around here are dried up.

I did some research before I purchased these items, and I found where Bala Sharks can live in 55g and be fine, and they do better with a pair than solo. So far this one alone, seems to be friendly with the others.

I just posted some pictures I hope they are clear enough to see what I have. I could locate the baby fish, as they stay on the very back side in the greenery.

My tank is still at 74, and it doesn't have a heater. I spoke with a friend who has had a tank for 15 yrs, and she said she never used a heater, just kept her lights on and never had any problems. Is this true also? As my house stays around 70-72 in winter time, and around 80 in summertime as I live in an upstairs apartment and we are so close to the roof, it doesn't cool very well.

I do have a API PH Test Kit, I tested the water last night and it was 7.6.

What do you mean by water parameters?

On my next trip to the store, I will purchase a few different kinds of food that you recommended and everytime I go I will pick up a different one.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:03 AM   #5
 
It's me again. I just read online where it isn't safe to have real shells in the tank. That it makes the ph higher. Is this true, as the previous owner has small shells mixed in with the gravel. Do I need to get them out asap. Also she has mixed the rocks you see with betta in there also. I've pulled all of them out that are on top, I haven't disturbed the gravel to get any out.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:44 AM   #6
 
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hello and welcome.
the orange fish ia a Gourami,and i think is a female,
due to the top fin being rounded.
water perams= Amonia,nitrIte,nitrAte,ph,gh,kh.
the ones to watch for are the Amonia,nitrIte,nitrAte.
it would be good if you have a 0 reading for amonia,0 nitrIte,
below 40 for nitrAtes.if you have changed all the filter sponges
with new ones then you will probably go through a cycle,
the water perams will all show,and water changes will
need to be pereformed,to bring them down to
a safe level for your fish,don't panic we will help you through.
LFS=local fish store.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:07 PM   #7
 
Ok thanks for identifing my mystery fish. Does the lfs take back fish? I purchased this tank with the fish already with it. As far as the crawdad it is actually a wild one. The lady's husband went fishing and caught it.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:20 PM   #8
 




Here are the pictures of the babies that I have not idenified yet. I hope they are clear enough to see. they are hard to get a picture of since they are so small.
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:17 PM   #9
 
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I had planned on releasing the crawdad but had planned to keep him til warmer weather as it's winter here now, and its like 40 outside. Plus we had a drought this year and most bodies of water around here are dried up.
I wouldn't release the crayfish anymore in the wild if I were you. Most laws made it illegal and you can't do it anyway considering the risk of introducing foreign pathogens that most wild aquatic life have no immunity against.
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My tank is still at 74, and it doesn't have a heater. I spoke with a friend who has had a tank for 15 yrs, and she said she never used a heater, just kept her lights on and never had any problems. Is this true also? As my house stays around 70-72 in winter time, and around 80 in summertime as I live in an upstairs apartment and we are so close to the roof, it doesn't cool very well.
Considering you have winter season there, I would get a heater just to be safe.:) The temp of 70-72 would still be too low for most tropical species.
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What do you mean by water parameters?
They're ammonia, nitrites, nitrates and pH. Others are GH (general hardness) and KH (carbonate hardness).

Your last post shows what seems to be juvenile mollies.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:57 PM   #10
 
If I get rid of the Bala Shark and Crawdads. The other fish should all get along just fine? Correct? Also what are some other fish that will get along with mine? Could I do snails? Or will that be a bad idea?

Also what about the seashells that she has in the tank, and the decorativer rocks
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