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Old 03-26-2010, 08:42 PM   #1
 
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Ok new 2213 coming in tomorrow. Question is where do you place the intake tube in relation to the outake? Outtake (spraybar) smack in the middle of the tank and the intake in a corner? Outtake (spraybar) on oneside and intake on the other side?

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Old 03-26-2010, 09:42 PM   #2
 
also on the intake what depth do you set it at, close to the gravel, mid water column or high?
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Old 03-27-2010, 12:00 AM   #3
 
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I answered the first part via PM you sent me. Personally, I put my intake as far at it naturally allowed me to go. The filter will include a "J" piece, with curves around the top of your tank and the intake get attached to it. I just put it a deep as the "J" allowed me to. I'm not sure how deep your 30g is, so you can always lift it a little. There's no 100% right way to do it. After it's set up, feel free to post a picture and we can let you know if it will be okay. I'm sure you'll be fine though. It's an easy filter to work with.
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Old 03-27-2010, 08:06 AM   #4
 
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To answer your PM here, let's see if linking you to my 55g picture works here: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...21318_full.jpg
As you see I have the intake sitting in the rear left corner. The Spraybar is somewhat angled downwards on the right side fully positioned under the water surface.

For Priming when I set mine up new I hook up all hoses and spraybars where you want them in the tank; then fill the canister with water to the top and shut it. Then I use the hose of the spraybar and hold it into a bucket that sits either level or below the Canister's level. That way it primes in about 2 sec once you plug it in. Being the newer Eheim like mine it will come with the valve system then I just either kink the hose and attach it to the spray bar or I shut the valve and attach the hose - Just turn the filter back off once its primed to attach the hose - Makes for less mess

The intake kinda looks like a hook if you will like a upside down U with one longer side; hang the short side over your tanks back and the longer end into your tank this usually (dep on tank size) will bring the intake just over the gravel level or a few inches above it and that's fine.

Hope this helps and hope you can see the image I linked here.
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Old 03-27-2010, 08:14 AM   #5
 
gottcha on intake and outtake placement. Don't know if i can do that with my 29g it's only 12 inches wide not sure how long the spray bar is.

Ok priming.... Fill eheim with water. Disconnect spraybar. Start syphon with spraybar. Close spray bar valve. Attach to Eheim and turn on.

Right?
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Old 03-27-2010, 08:55 AM   #6
 
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Nothing that couldn't be measured here The spraybar is 11" long so angle it down sideways it'll fit. Same for the intake just hang it over the back into your tank it'll fit.

Yup you got that right. Alternative if your Canister sits in a way that you could lift it up (mine you can't cause hoses are behind cabinet) then set everything up, fill canister with water hold the canister above / close tot he top of the tank and turn it on, that is also a VERY quick way to get suction going (and less hassle then the other way).
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Old 03-27-2010, 09:57 AM   #7
 
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Sounds like you got it. The spraybar will fit in your 30g. Even in mine and Angel's 55g, we both have it angeled downward anyway. Good luck today!
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Old 03-27-2010, 05:05 PM   #8
 
ok got it all set up and running... a little louder hum from the filter than I thought but im very picky my GF says its ok so it must be.

Way to much flow... my fish are being blown all over. To remedy I just turned down the outflow using the control valves. Is the ok? or should i have adjust the inflow? or does it matter?
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Old 03-27-2010, 08:07 PM   #9
 
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ok got it all set up and running... a little louder hum from the filter than I thought but im very picky my GF says its ok so it must be.

Way to much flow... my fish are being blown all over. To remedy I just turned down the outflow using the control valves. Is the ok? or should i have adjust the inflow? or does it matter?
You probably can only adjust the outflow; adjusting the inflow might be dangerous as the filter could drain itself, which is not possible by reducing the outflow.

To further reduce current, which is very important for forest fish and something many never consider, you can position the holes on the spraybar against the end wall. It is possible to have the spraybar just under the surface and positioned such that you get both a current downward and through the tank, plus some slight surface disturbance which is beneficial if not too much (depending if you have plants, or suface fish or floating plants).

As clearly indicated by prior responders, the intake and outflow should be at opposite ends of a rectangular tank for best water flow throughout the tank. The intake should be no closer than 4 inches from the substrate at that point as this will allow the best circulation and not pull substrate into the filter. Both Eheim and Rena recommend this distance.
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Old 03-27-2010, 08:26 PM   #10
 
Byron tried what you said back wall angled down and the fish seem to like it a lot more especially my 8 neons.
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