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New to cichlids, any help would be great.
Old 04-06-2013, 04:35 PM   #11
 
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sand substrate - did you wash it? usually takes me about 2 good hours of washing to get it right. more then liley its fine particulate floating around, give it a few hrs and it should settle.

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Yea I washed the sand but it wasn't for 2 hours. I'm sure the cloudyness had some what to do with the sand but its been sitting for a week now and it is still a little cloudy. much much better then the 1st day though. Hopefully this coming Friday i'll my rocks for the cichlids and finally get fish.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:04 PM   #12
 
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anychance you can give us warter params ammonia nitrite and nitrate? if its been sitting for a week it should have settled by now I would think. im curious to what is causing the cloud without any fish or ammonia being added. also test your tap.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:07 PM   #13
 
Ammonia problem

So my tank ran for 4 weeks with no fish and cleared up nicely my first 2 water tests after adding 5 fish were perfect. I went on vacation and had my dad feed the fish. I tested the water after and the results were

Ph 7.6
Ammonia 2.0ppm
Nitrite 0ppm
Nitrate 0ppm


Should I do a water change or add chemicals to bring the ammonia down to 0?

I stocked the tank 2 weeks ago with 2 Acei and 2 Yellow Labs and 1 Pleco.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:22 PM   #14
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I doubt that the tank has setup a cycle yet... ammonia with no nitrites and no nitrates looks like it has barely started. Water changes daily would be best. I assume that you are treating the water (you mentioned chlorine) and if you are using Prime then the ammonia will be detoxified. If you keep changing it, daily or at least every two days, then even the nitrites will be detoxed while it cycles. Once you see nitrites spike then watch for the nitrates to start building then both ammonia and should nitrites drop to zero, then the tank is cycled. You cannot tell this by looking at the water as cloudiness has next to nothing to do with cycling the tank.

Have a read through the following link as this outlines some cycling options... obviously you are now doing the fish in cycle.

http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...m-cycle-38617/


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Old 06-02-2013, 07:39 PM   #15
 
As you mentioned previously my tank had not started to cycle yet. It has been 2 weeks and the ammonia is still present but no signs of nitrites yet. is it normal for it to take this long? I have been doing water changes and adding water conditioner.
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:42 PM   #16
 
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As you mentioned previously my tank had not started to cycle yet. It has been 2 weeks and the ammonia is still present but no signs of nitrites yet. is it normal for it to take this long? I have been doing water changes and adding water conditioner.
It can vary, but what is the ammonia reading from tests? And are you doing daily water changes?
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:47 PM   #17
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I don't know exactly how it translates to a larger tank but I've been doing an experiment with a small water volume and a bare cycle (no plants, filter etc.... just a jar and some water). I saw nitrites appear on day 4 and disappear on day 7. Having said that, it takes as long as it takes.

What does ammonia test result show and is this before or after the water change?

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Old 06-02-2013, 09:56 PM   #18
 
Food for thought....

I have a 60g (same dimensions). I have two Aquaclear 70 filters. The first is a dedicated bio-filter that uses an AC20 impeller for reduced (trickle) flow. It is filled with a packed mixture of Seachem Matrix and Seachem De*Nitrate. This filter is rarely touched and as mentioned, the flow through is just a trickle. The other filter is filled with sponge and floss and sometimes carbon, Nitra-Zorb or Seachem Purigen. It is primarily mechanical and serviced once or twice a week. It is throttled down all the way for minimum flow/maximum re-filtration.
I think two AC110's would be too much flow as combined, they would be up to 1000GPH.

As far as cycling, even with a bio-seed, it can sometimes take 4-6 weeks to cycle a new tank. The process doesn't even begin until there is some ammonia source, even if you add a bio-seed. In some cases, cycling can be 'instant' if enough beneficial bacteria/archea are initially added, but this is somewhat rare and most of the bottled products have organisms in stasis that take awhile to come alive and reproduce.

As far as other/general questions about cichlids, you might go to the cichlid sub-forum:
Cichlids

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Old 06-03-2013, 10:54 AM   #19
 
Sorry for the slow reply, I wanted to wait until I did my water change last night and retested it this morning. The levels are as follows.

Ph- 7.6
Ammonia- 2.0-4.0
Nitrite/nitrate- 0
Temp- 79-80
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Old 06-03-2013, 01:39 PM   #20
 
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I have a 75 male Mbuna tank. I've had two for a while and just added another set after I got the larger tank. They are funny fish! I have a love hate relationship with them. I currently have an albino zebra( greshakei) a demasoni (he is an absolute @ss lol) a rusty and an acei. I really would say go with a male tank if you don't want breeding. Thats why I did it. Plus they are so pretty. Make sure to get lots of rocks. They inspect new rocks when I put them in and battle to see who "wins" it. Honestly the coolest fish I own even though I complain about them more then any others. It's like a chess game stocking the tank and must be thought out! Good luck

Oh! almost forgot. Keep another 10g on hand if you need to put anyone in timeout ...not kidding. I've had to do it twice with the demasoni. He behaves better now haha
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