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Old 02-23-2012, 12:14 PM   #11
 
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First, allow me to welcome you to Tropical Fish Keeping forum. Glad you joined us.

Filter. The size rated for the tank is adequate for what you are intending. I would place it at one end, this creates a natural flow down the length of the tank. You want a gentle flow, not a raging current for the fish intended, and I'm not familiar with the specific filter mentioned but there are usually ways of achieving this. The heater should be placed close to the filter return (water entering the tank from the filter) so it will heat the water as it flows past and down the tank.

Plants. i second having live plants. These need not be difficult, if you can maintain healthy fish in a tank there is no reason why live plants will not be successful. And the benefit of plants cannot be understated. Aside from the water stability facet, all forest fish (the species you have so far mentioned are all forest fish) appreciate having plants. On this fake will work almost as well, in that they provide the shade, security, etc., but the benefit to water quality from live plants is something you should not ignore. Fine gravel or sand will work. If you have not already decided on the substrate, we can discuss this further, as there are some that are better than others not only for plants but fish (esp substrate fish). It would also help to know your lighting.

Fish. Other members have noted some issues, i second those. If angelfish are to be the focus, a group of 5 or 6 in a 75g would be lovely. Sword plants (Echinodorus species) suit this fish admirably, along with some floating plants.

As for tankmates, these have to be carefully chosen. Angelfish are slow, sedate cruisers, and they have very long fins. Most barbs will nip them. Some danio and characins (tetra) will too. Plus, you want slow sedate shoaling fish to work well with angelfish, no boisterous active swimmers as this can annoy the angels and that means stress. And stress weakens the immune system, result is unhealthy fish. Some suggestions are included in the profile, click the shaded name Scalare Angelfish.

The "sharks" are not recommended with slow fish. They can get nasty as they mature, and one of either species means no other substrate fish, which is a shame, as a 75g tank has lots of space for some interesting substrate fish like any of the corys, Whiptail catfish, bristlenose pleco, etc. These are in our profiles too, click the names.

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Old 02-23-2012, 02:26 PM   #12
 
I have small pea sized and smaller gravel as a substrate. I also am planning on switching out some of my artificail plants with thier real life counterparts. I"m not gonna do an entirely live plant tank but a few (2-5) would help. Would the previously mentioned plants be good??I read their profiles on here and as well as other sites and I still don't know what kind of care the amazon swords, java fern, or the anubias like pruning and things of that nature.What are some other slow growing plants that require little care? Can some plants be planted in "pots" and then buried in the substrate

Lighting is just a 4ft standard florescent light on a glass top

The first fish I'm going to get I think is the Penguin Tetra or Black Widow Tetra.
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:29 PM   #13
 
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I have small pea sized and smaller gravel as a substrate. I also am planning on switching out some of my artificail plants with thier real life counterparts. I"m not gonna do an entirely live plant tank but a few (2-5) would help. Would the previously mentioned plants be good??I read their profiles on here and as well as other sites and I still don't know what kind of care the amazon swords, java fern, or the anubias like pruning and things of that nature.What are some other slow growing plants that require little care? Can some plants be planted in "pots" and then buried in the substrate

Lighting is just a 4ft standard florescent light on a glass top

The first fish I'm going to get I think is the Penguin Tetra or Black Widow Tetra.
Both of those tetra are bad choices with angelfish. Read their profiles.

That's minimum light but adequate for what I've suggested in plants. You do need a good tube though, but that's not expensive. Visit Home Depot or Lowe's or similar and look for a 4-foot T8 tube that has a Kelvin of around 6500K. GE, Phillips and Sylvania all make one. The kelvin is the important thing, accept no substitutes.

Plants can be potted, but it is not advisable except where the fish are likely to uproot them, which is not here. Roots in the substrate are part of an important biological process, you can read about that here:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...quarium-74891/
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Old 02-23-2012, 08:38 PM   #14
 
The penguin fish profiles say they are compatible with angelfish???
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:55 AM   #15
 
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The penguin fish profiles say they are compatible with angelfish???
Yes, sorry, a slip of the old mind. The Black Widow Tetra is known to nip.

BTW, the usual penguin in stores is actually the False Penguin Tetra. But it is OK too, or should be (no one can guarantee).
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Old 02-24-2012, 06:19 PM   #16
 
So a nice small school of those would be ok? Btw my pH is 7 not 0 that was a flub on my part. I have soft water and probably now some ammonia which is not good for fish so I may just wait out the cycleing or get a plant or two with every purchase of fish.
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Old 02-25-2012, 11:11 AM   #17
 
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So a nice small school of those would be ok? Btw my pH is 7 not 0 that was a flub on my part. I have soft water and probably now some ammonia which is not good for fish so I may just wait out the cycleing or get a plant or two with every purchase of fish.
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The more plants immediately, the better; with enough, there will be zero ammonia and nitrite, you won't even notice a "cycle" as such--and neither will the fish. Floating plants are ideal for this, as well as any fast growing substrate-rooted plants.

The False Penguin should be OK, a group of 7 or more. If you want some colour in with the angelfish, some (but not all) of the red species in Hyphessobrycon work well. The Roberts Tetra and Rosy Tetra are fine. But not the Serpae, this is a notorious nipper. The Black Phantom Tetra and Red Phantom Tetra also work, though not as colourful. The Harlequin Rasbora also works if you don't mind leaving South America for tankmates.
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:19 AM   #18
 
OK so I went and got some Anubias nana today and replaces a few of my foreground plants. May be going out to get some fish tommorow or but will probably just get another kind of plant should I get a floating plant or a stem plant like an anacharis, or maybe a sword plant
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Old 02-26-2012, 12:22 PM   #19
 
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OK so I went and got some Anubias nana today and replaces a few of my foreground plants. May be going out to get some fish tommorow or but will probably just get another kind of plant should I get a floating plant or a stem plant like an anacharis, or maybe a sword plant
I would have sword plants with angels, this is very realistic to their natural habitat and the angels cruising through the tall leaves of a sword is a magnificient sight. They will, if a pair forms, also spawn on the sword leaves.

Anacharis is not my favourite plant for several reasons. I would stay with swords, the pygmy chain sword for the substrate level, and for floating (essential) some Water Sprite or Brazilian Pennywort. The latter is actually a stem plant but it does very well floating, and is the only stem plant that will manage in less light than the other stem plants.
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:24 AM   #20
 
I was looking for the pennywort but i couldn't find it. =/ I like tje look of the chain sword but I'm afraid it could get out of control.
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