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Old 12-15-2012, 07:52 AM   #31
 
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Rotten eggs? That's usually a sign of sulfer in the water. Are you sure it's just iron?

We have a well at my house too. The bottom of our well is full of sand, so although we get a bit of grit in our water, it is clear and tastes great! (drinking water is just put in a pitcher to settle and then drink all but t the last glass). Guess we got lucky
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Well I meant the main issue is the Iron, we do as well have sulfur, it had been tested for drinking though back when we bought the house and is safe, although we still soften it and then run it through a PUR filter before drinking. You certainly did get lucky or maybe thats normal for your area, around here everybody has yucky well water
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:09 AM   #32
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Wells are funny. On our road everyone has to have water softeners and filters. We have none. Just drilled to a different depth.

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Old 12-18-2012, 10:07 AM   #33
 
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Salt to Potassium Chloride

So we switched the softener over from salt to potassium chloride and my parameters now from the tap are:

PH 7.4-7.6
GH 0
KH 300+

Now if I'm understanding this right, even though my GH reading from the softener is 0 my TDS are still the same as they are straight from the well at 300 GH which equates to 17 dGH so I should still be putting hard water fish( the guppies I wanted) in there? If I'm understanding this wrong someone please correct me.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:35 AM   #34
 
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So we switched the softener over from salt to potassium chloride and my parameters now from the tap are:

PH 7.4-7.6
GH 0
KH 300+

Now if I'm understanding this right, even though my GH reading from the softener is 0 my TDS are still the same as they are straight from the well at 300 GH which equates to 17 dGH so I should still be putting hard water fish( the guppies I wanted) in there? If I'm understanding this wrong someone please correct me.
No, you do not want hard water fish as there is no calcium and magnesium, and calcium in particular is essential for hard water fish (livebearers, etc).

As you can use pre-softener water [if memory serves me correctly from this thread] you can mix some with the softened water. The level will depend upon the fish species. If you go with soft water fish a GH around 5 to 10 dGH will work, some fish will be happier at 5, so again species determine this. Also live plants must have GH no less than 4 dGH or they will not have sufficient calcium.

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Old 12-18-2012, 10:40 AM   #35
 
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No, you do not want hard water fish as there is no calcium and magnesium, and calcium in particular is essential for hard water fish (livebearers, etc).

As you can use pre-softener water [if memory serves me correctly from this thread] you can mix some with the softened water. The level will depend upon the fish species. If you go with soft water fish a GH around 5 to 10 dGH will work, some fish will be happier at 5, so again species determine this. Also live plants must have GH no less than 4 dGH or they will not have sufficient calcium.

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I cant use pre-softened water because of the orange color and rust, the filters that I did try did not effectively remove all of it, the water was still coming out orangish and quite cloudy. Is it possible to use my current softened water and add a calcium supplement to make some soft water fish and the plants happy? Maybe a grp of 7 or so ember tetras although my PH is higher than the recommended 7 or below for them...

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Old 12-18-2012, 10:49 AM   #36
 
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I cant use pre-softened water because of the orange color and rust, the filters that I did try did not effectively remove all of it, the water was still coming out orangish and quite cloudy. Is it possible to use my current softened water and add a calcium supplement to make some soft water fish and the plants happy? Maybe a grp of 7 or so ember tetras although my PH is higher than the recommended 7 or below for them...
Yes. I have near-zero GH our of my tap, the water is about as devoid of any minerals as it can be. So I need to add some hard minerals, and I use Seachem's Equilibrium because my tanks are planted. I raise the GH from 0.5 dGH up to about 5 dGH. I do this for the plants, but it is not a problem for my soft water fish; they would be happy with the tap water.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:00 AM   #37
 
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Yes. I have near-zero GH our of my tap, the water is about as devoid of any minerals as it can be. So I need to add some hard minerals, and I use Seachem's Equilibrium because my tanks are planted. I raise the GH from 0.5 dGH up to about 5 dGH. I do this for the plants, but it is not a problem for my soft water fish; they would be happy with the tap water.
Okay, I'll look into getting some of that. If I went with the ember tetras do you think my PH of 7.4-7.6 would be okay with them or do you have a better suggestion of a very small fish I could get several of?
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:04 PM   #38
 
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Okay, I'll look into getting some of that. If I went with the ember tetras do you think my PH of 7.4-7.6 would be okay with them or do you have a better suggestion of a very small fish I could get several of?
They should manage, though they would prefer it acidic. But the GH is low so that is more important.

We are talking small tanks, so there are some other suitable fish, the Boraras species of rasbora but they too would be better with a lower pH. Celestial Pearl Danio are ideal in very soft but slightly basic pH water, but a bit more room would be best for them, as noted i the profile.
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