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Old 09-12-2011, 11:28 PM   #11
 
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Do your water changes, a change in color in mood in fish during cycling can probably be related to the high level of toxic material, frequent water changes are the only way to get through a fish in cycle.

Once both ammonia and nitrites are 0 you can add a few more fish, but not till then.

Thanks for your info, will maintain the water changes. Just curious, when i change the water, does it have to be cold water ??? or can I use warm water, to maintain the temperature, so the fish don't go through a massive temperature drop ???

Thanks for your help, greatly appreciated :)
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:47 PM   #12
 
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When changing out the water, the new water that you add to the tank you want to be close to the same temp as that in the tank. A little bit cooler is okay, the cooler water actually simulates what happens in rivers and lakes when it rains. The new water does not need to be cold, I would just make sure it is either the same temp or a little bit cooler than what is in the tank. With new water cooler is better than warmer IMO.
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:21 AM   #13
 
Thanks for the advice, its been really helpful.

The ammonia has now dropped down to 1.0 ppm, which is really good. Just have one question , when out for a few hours and all the lights where off. Now the tiger barbs are hiding in the ornaments and have a faint coat (which usually symbolizes sleep time). Anything to be concerned about ??? Notice one tiger barb was going back and forth, is this a sign of stress or is it nothing to worry about ???

Thanks again, the help has been great :)
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:00 PM   #14
 
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If the tank is in relative darkness, meaning the room is also dark, the fish will naturally think it is night and go into their sleep mode. Many species pale in colour and pattern. A regular lighting period is best for all fish. A simple lamp timer for the tank light is the best way to achieve this, but make sure the tank light is on during "daylight" in the room, so when th tank light is off it is dark in the room. There is some flexibility in this, but in general day/night should correspond to our day/night. And the room should have some ambient light when the tank light comes on and goes off, to avoid shocking the fish which is highly stressful.

Going back to your earlier question on fish for this tank: from your dimensions you have a 20g tall as we call it. With Tiger Barb, I would not have other upper fish. As Barb mentioned earlier, some substrate fish are fine, and she gave some examples. But if you read the profile of the TB [click the shaded name to see the profile] you will note it recommends a group of 8 minimum with no other upper fish unless the tank is over 30 gallons. The profile info explains why, so I won't repeat.

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Old 09-14-2011, 08:07 AM   #15
 
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If the tank is in relative darkness, meaning the room is also dark, the fish will naturally think it is night and go into their sleep mode. Many species pale in colour and pattern. A regular lighting period is best for all fish. A simple lamp timer for the tank light is the best way to achieve this, but make sure the tank light is on during "daylight" in the room, so when th tank light is off it is dark in the room. There is some flexibility in this, but in general day/night should correspond to our day/night. And the room should have some ambient light when the tank light comes on and goes off, to avoid shocking the fish which is highly stressful.

Going back to your earlier question on fish for this tank: from your dimensions you have a 20g tall as we call it. With Tiger Barb, I would not have other upper fish. As Barb mentioned earlier, some substrate fish are fine, and she gave some examples. But if you read the profile of the TB [click the shaded name to see the profile] you will note it recommends a group of 8 minimum with no other upper fish unless the tank is over 30 gallons. The profile info explains why, so I won't repeat.

Byron.

Thanks for your advice, it's greatly appreciated. Have good news, the ammonia has now dropped to .25, which is a good result. Looking forward to adding new barbs soon :)

Thanks allot for your assistance everyone, its been a great help :)
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Old 09-17-2011, 07:48 AM   #16
 
Hi All,

Do I have anything to be concerned about ? Have three fish, 2 x Tiger Barbs and one T- Barb ( I think ??? :) The T-barb is really fin nipping one of the Tiger barbs, is really giving it to it. Is it something to be concerned about or is it just normal behavior ????


Thanks again for your help, it's been great :)
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Old 09-17-2011, 12:30 PM   #17
 
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Hi All,

Do I have anything to be concerned about ? Have three fish, 2 x Tiger Barbs and one T- Barb ( I think ??? :) The T-barb is really fin nipping one of the Tiger barbs, is really giving it to it. Is it something to be concerned about or is it just normal behavior ????


Thanks again for your help, it's been great :)
These fish are shoaling fish, meaning they live in large groups naturally. In an aquarium, they must be in a group. Some species can manage with 5-6 minimum, others need more. When this "group" is not provided, and especially in an enclosed environment, most fish become stressed. What they "expect" by their instincts is not present. They are few ways to lash out, and aggression is the most common. Which brings me to the barbs.

Some fish are normally peaceful, others are mildly aggressive. All barbs fall into the latter by nature, though to differing degrees. Tiger Barb are one of the most aggressive, and should never be kept in groups less than 8 fish. And this requires a 30g tank. No other species should be present, although substrate fish manage. If the tank is larger than 30g, then other fish can be added, but the species has to be carefully selected in order to manage with the natural aggression of the TB.

The T-Barb is Puntius laterstriga and when young is a shoaling fish; as they mature they prefer to go their own way. This fish needs space, a 3-foot tank is minimum. Smaller tanks also bring out that aggressiveness I mentioned earlier. This species is not yet in our profiles, but the TB is, you can click on the shaded name above to see its profile which will explain this a bit more.

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Old 09-17-2011, 10:32 PM   #18
 
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These fish are shoaling fish, meaning they live in large groups naturally. In an aquarium, they must be in a group. Some species can manage with 5-6 minimum, others need more. When this "group" is not provided, and especially in an enclosed environment, most fish become stressed. What they "expect" by their instincts is not present. They are few ways to lash out, and aggression is the most common. Which brings me to the barbs.

Some fish are normally peaceful, others are mildly aggressive. All barbs fall into the latter by nature, though to differing degrees. Tiger Barb are one of the most aggressive, and should never be kept in groups less than 8 fish. And this requires a 30g tank. No other species should be present, although substrate fish manage. If the tank is larger than 30g, then other fish can be added, but the species has to be carefully selected in order to manage with the natural aggression of the TB.

The T-Barb is Puntius laterstriga and when young is a shoaling fish; as they mature they prefer to go their own way. This fish needs space, a 3-foot tank is minimum. Smaller tanks also bring out that aggressiveness I mentioned earlier. This species is not yet in our profiles, but the TB is, you can click on the shaded name above to see its profile which will explain this a bit more.

Byron.

Thanks for the info, greatly appreciated. The problem I have, is when I originally bought the fish from the shop, I specifically asked for 3 Tiger Barbs. Didn't realize one was different till i got home. What should I do ??? Should I somehow return the T Barb ??? Or should I keep it ??? How will the T Barb fit with a group of Tiger Barbs ??? And should I have at least 6 Tiger Barbs or can I mix then with maybe Cherry Barb, Rosy Barb or maybe Albino Barbs. What do you think ???
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Old 09-18-2011, 12:22 PM   #19
 
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Thanks for the info, greatly appreciated. The problem I have, is when I originally bought the fish from the shop, I specifically asked for 3 Tiger Barbs. Didn't realize one was different till i got home. What should I do ??? Should I somehow return the T Barb ??? Or should I keep it ??? How will the T Barb fit with a group of Tiger Barbs ??? And should I have at least 6 Tiger Barbs or can I mix then with maybe Cherry Barb, Rosy Barb or maybe Albino Barbs. What do you think ???
The store should allow you to return the T-Barb for more Tiger Barb under those circumstances.

If your tank is 30 gallons or under, I would not have anything other than the Tigers, in a group of 8 (in 30g, fewer if smaller tank). If you're over 30g in tank size, 8 TB and some other robust fish will work. Albino are probably Tiger Barb alnbino form, so same fish and will work together. Rosy Barb should manage, but remember they need lower temperatures (72F max, which is the lowest for Tigers). Cherry Barb would also be at their lowest end of the range. Check the info in the profiles, click the shaded names.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:35 PM   #20
 
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The store should allow you to return the T-Barb for more Tiger Barb under those circumstances.

If your tank is 30 gallons or under, I would not have anything other than the Tigers, in a group of 8 (in 30g, fewer if smaller tank). If you're over 30g in tank size, 8 TB and some other robust fish will work. Albino are probably Tiger Barb alnbino form, so same fish and will work together. Rosy Barb should manage, but remember they need lower temperatures (72F max, which is the lowest for Tigers). Cherry Barb would also be at their lowest end of the range. Check the info in the profiles, click the shaded names.

Thanks for that. Went to the store today and they were happy to exchange it for a Tiger Barb. turned out that the fish that they gave by mistake was a Black Ruby Barb. Have added 2 Albino barbs now as well. So now i have 3 Tiger Barbs and 2 Albino Tiger Barbs. Will slowly add more fish over time, would mind adding a few Green Moss barbs.

See how we go :)
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