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Old 07-16-2011, 05:34 AM   #1
 
New 55 Gallon

Hello,

I've just joined the forums and am relatively new to fish keeping. A while back me and my wife had a ten gallon tank and kept a few tetras and assorted tropicals in it but had to get rid of it. Now we have just been given a 55 gallon tank for free so we have decided to get back into the fish games.

Like the novices that we are we didn't do our research well and failed to cycle the tank properly at first. I'm sure this is handled all the time but I couldn't find specifically what I need answered. We tried to stock the tank too quickly and most of them were sadly fatalities. Right now what we have left in the tank is one pleco, one mystery snail, and one blue gourami.

What would be the best way to make sure the tank is safe for more fish? Should we introduce one or two more to help the cycle along? I'm not sure that the Gourami himself will do enough for the cycle by himself in a tank this large. If so will it take longer? I plan on buying a test for ammonia/nitrites/nitrates so I can check the cycle but right now all I have is the 5 in 1 Jungle test strips that don't apply numbers to everything but here is what the parameters are right now:

Nitrates: Little to none
Nitrites: None
Hardness: I interpreted it to be somewhere between 150 and 300 ppm
Alkalinity: High (~300 ppm)
Ph: 8.4

Any help would be greatly appreciated and sorry if this is the same question that's been answered 100 times.

P.S. We also had some ick and treated for it. We did a 50% water change after the last treatment. That probably messed with the cycle and chemistry so I thought I'd throw that in. Our Gourami is recovering well though, he's a trooper


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Old 07-16-2011, 06:24 AM   #2
 
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Hello,

I've just joined the forums and am relatively new to fish keeping. A while back me and my wife had a ten gallon tank and kept a few tetras and assorted tropicals in it but had to get rid of it. Now we have just been given a 55 gallon tank for free so we have decided to get back into the fish games.

Like the novices that we are we didn't do our research well and failed to cycle the tank properly at first. I'm sure this is handled all the time but I couldn't find specifically what I need answered. We tried to stock the tank too quickly and most of them were sadly fatalities. Right now what we have left in the tank is one pleco, one mystery snail, and one blue gourami.

What would be the best way to make sure the tank is safe for more fish? Should we introduce one or two more to help the cycle along? I'm not sure that the Gourami himself will do enough for the cycle by himself in a tank this large. If so will it take longer? I plan on buying a test for ammonia/nitrites/nitrates so I can check the cycle but right now all I have is the 5 in 1 Jungle test strips that don't apply numbers to everything but here is what the parameters are right now:

Nitrates: Little to none
Nitrites: None
Hardness: I interpreted it to be somewhere between 150 and 300 ppm
Alkalinity: High (~300 ppm)
Ph: 8.4

Any help would be greatly appreciated and sorry if this is the same question that's been answered 100 times.

P.S. We also had some ick and treated for it. We did a 50% water change after the last treatment. That probably messed with the cycle and chemistry so I thought I'd throw that in. Our Gourami is recovering well though, he's a trooper


Thank you!
Welcome to TFK Definitely you will want to invest in a liquid test kit like the master test kit by API. The strip test are not very realiable. Plecos are heavy on the bio-load anc create a lot of waste, also if it is a common pleco they can get rather large and will outgrow the 55 gallon. With the pleco and gourami there is a source of ammonia for the nitrogen cycle to establish itself. Here is an article on beniificial bacteria in the aquarium and the cylce http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...quarium-74891/. I would wait on adding anymore fish until you are able to get a test kit to be able to see exactly where your numbers are at. How long has this tank been running?
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Old 07-16-2011, 06:38 AM   #3
 
Thanks for the tips! It has been running for 12 days now but we did a 50% water change 2 days ago. I'm going to try to get to the store soon and should be able to get the liquid test so I know exactly what my numbers are at. I was mainly just curious if the two would be sufficient to cycle the tank. Thanks for the help!

P.S. I'd heard plecos get big but wasn't aware exactly how big. Hopefully, if we're successful with this tank, we'd like to get a larger one. Hopefully he doesn't outgrow his home by that point.
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Old 07-16-2011, 08:02 AM   #4
 
If you have small fish a pleco is a bad idea Even if your tank can house it!A 18 inch catfish will uproot all your plants and knock around your decore.You need to replace him with a bristlenose or a Otocinclus.Otocinclus are wonderful by the way there cute,they swim around and they get the job done.(they top out at around 1.5 inches)
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:25 AM   #5
 
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Hi Voodoochild! Welcome to TFK. We're glad you found us, especially while still trying to cycle the tank. Sorry this is long... just want to help.... It will take at least 6-8 weeks to get thru the nitrogen cycle so take your time, and be patient. For now the Pleco will help create the bio load. You can always trade him back to the LFS when you are finally cycled and ready to add new fish. I have a 75 Gallon with a 7-8 inch common Pleco. It has taken 4 years for her to grow to that size and she was in a 55gal until last Oct when we upgraded. So yes they get huge, but in time. You have time to think and make decisions. Only one Gourami esp a blue in the tank at one time as they can also be teritorial/aggressive with certain fish. Do not put any betta's M or F into a tank with a Gourami.
So keep up with your water changes, if any number gets too high it can be rectified with a water change. Remember to match temperatures iwth each bucket full, as well de-chlorinator. Also when you get your Master kit, test your tap water to know your numbers. My water has .25 ammonia right out of the tap.
At the end of the cycle you will have approx 0 Ammonia, 0 NitrIte and 20ish Nitrate but each will spike before that and water changes will bring those numbers down. Keep a little journal or pocket calender near the tank and always write down what you do on what day. July 16, 30% water change. July 19 A xx, NI xx, NA XX, 30% water change. Aug 1 Added XXX fish. etc. It is hard to remember what we did on what day, and when things go wrong you have a reference to discuss with us or the LFS for help.
Go to the LFS to just look around. Come home and research. What does that fish need, how big does it get, and who can it go with/ not go with. Also does it school? i.e. needs same kind tank mates, sometimes 6-8. When you do bring new fish home max 3-4 at a time so that you do not upset your bio load and cause a mini-cycle, float the bag to equalize temperatures for 30-45 minutes and every 5 or 10 minutes dribble in some TANK water to help equalize the PH from the store water to the tank water. Eventually you might invest in a quarantine 10 gallon tank to house new fish for 3-4 weeks before adding them to the big tank to protect your fish from dissease.
Hope this all helps. TA larger tank functions better than the small ones, and a planted tank functions way differently too but that also has it's challenges. This is a wonderful place to learn! Enjoy!!







































































































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Old 07-16-2011, 09:29 AM   #6
 
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Sorry for the gap!! LOL A Planted tank....ooops. (last sentence. and sorry for the spelling mistakes)
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Old 07-16-2011, 12:32 PM   #7
 
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As you begin to select possible fish to add over time, bear in mind your water parameters. Hard basic water will suit livebearers and many of the hardier "soft water" fish but not all of them. You can read up on species in our fish profiles, second tab from the left inn the blue bar across the taop take you there. Info on water parameters is included for each species, as well as numbers (some are sholaing fish and need groups), compatibility, etc.

The fish you have will "cycle" the tnak, to the level of those fish. Bacteria exist in the quantity needed. You can read more here:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...quarium-74891/

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Old 07-16-2011, 04:18 PM   #8
 
Thanks for all the help guys! I did quite a bit of research on the fish but not the cycle and I have a pretty good idea of what I want to house in the aquarium. Hopefully with patience and some work I'll be able to get the tank set up and ready to go!
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