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Old 09-10-2012, 04:35 PM   #31
 
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Do you have your carbonate hardness (KH) results? That is the buffering capacity of your water and will indicate how easy it is going to soften your water through means such as peat.

If you have a fairly low - moderate carbonate hardness, you would have more success with gradually lowering your pH by running a stocking full of peat moss in your filter. Things such as lots of wood and IAL are also going to help. However, if you have a high KH it is going to be a lot more difficult to bring your pH down.

With that said, you could try and just get some generic aquarium strain gardneri. They tend to be pretty tough, and will probably do fine in moderately hard water, you just might not be able to get them to breed.

Another flashy fish that does well in harder water is celebes rainbowfish. Not sure if anyone has recommended them yet, but they are quite a stunning fish in person.
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:47 PM   #32
 
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KH is around the same as the GH if memory serves me right it was 12. So yeah high enough to be a pain to get it to drop. Rainbow fish have been mentioned (Jes yes I know you said so already) have never really liked the look of them but Ohhhh those Celebes are pretty!!! Looks like they would do great in my water too!! Will have to look into those some more! Thanks Littlebettafish! LoL you have anymore ideas??????
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:59 PM   #33
 
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You could try pseudomugil tenellus (delicate blue-eye), furcatus (forktail blue-eye), connieae or possibly gertrudae (spotted blue-eye) in your tank as well. Furcatus and connieae do best in harder water, but tenellus and gertrudae can live comfortably in a wide range of pH values.

I have several species of blue-eyes and they are very curious, friendly little fish. Mine all swarm my hand whenever I stick it in the tank, and if you put a spawning mop in your tank you may be able to collect some eggs to hatch out.
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:10 PM   #34
 
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Awee!!!! The pseudomugil tenellus look like gorgeous fish! That's it gotta have some!! Well they do Ok with Celebes rainbows? If not what other species would go good with them? Also what part of the water column do these fish stay in?
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:18 PM   #35
 
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Yeah tenellus are nice. I will have to get some photos of my motley crew up haha. My blue-eyes seem to hang out at all levels of the tank. They tend to be middle- upper level swimmers but as I have a leaf litter on the bottom of my tank they will spend time down there picking through looking for food.

Males spar amongst themselves but that is about the extent of aggression you will see. I haven't kept celebes but I haven't heard anything about them being aggressive. Probably the worst you would see out of them would be the males sparring and displaying.

I would recommend a few more females to males, as the males of my blue-eyes tend to be a bit amorous in their advances and can sometimes run the females ragged.
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:32 PM   #36
 
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So in your opinion how many would you get total for a 55 gallon. Also would ratio need to be something like 3f to 1m?
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:44 PM   #37
 
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They are not big and I am not sure what else you are stocking with, but I have a group of around 20 odd (probably more) mixed blue-eyes, and they do fine in a 46x46x46cm tank which is only 25 gallons. This is on top of the other rainbows and fish I keep in there as well.

You could probably fit a school of 15-20 individuals in a 55 gallon tank. 2-3f per male sounds like a good ratio. If your tank is densely planted you may even find fry crop up every now and then.
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:48 PM   #38
 
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This tank is stocked now with Angelfish that are fixing to find a new home due to aggressive towards each other. So it will be an empty tank.

I was trying to find a place online for the pseudomugil tenellus and am coming up short!!!! This maybe a problem. Need to go to my LFS tomorrow and see what they can do!!
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:48 PM   #39
 
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Thanks for everything Littlebettafish!!!!!!
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:53 PM   #40
 
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No problems. Maybe if you are desperate see if there is a Australian and New Guinea rainbow fish club in your state and they might be able to point you in the right direction. It's a bit easier here for me to source them they are a native here.

Wetspot on Aquabid seems to get in some rarer species so you could try shooting them off an email if you can't find them anywhere else.

Always seems to happen to me. Australia is very stringent on what species can and can't be imported and so all the fish I really really love I cannot seem to find here. I wish I was into more popular fish like guppies and goldfish haha.
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