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new 250 litre, alkaline water - fish suggestions?
Old 07-31-2010, 02:18 PM   #21
 
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I note in our profile on black skirt tetra (which I wrote) it includes angelfish as companions; it also mentions fin nipping if there is not a large group of the tetra. The sedate behaviour of angels is somewhat enticing to other fish, and any that "might" nip, might. Or they might not. I would avoid black skirts more on the similarly of appearance than anything else.

The only thing that should clog a spraybar is algae; brush algae loves to grow in filter outlets due to the current. I remove mine probably once every 3-4 months and run a brush through it and use an old toothbrush to scrape the outside. The filter media should be capturing any plant material that gets drawn in to the filter.
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Old 07-31-2010, 10:25 PM   #22
 
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It doesn't get clogged, but it does get stuff in it. I shouldn't have said "clogged", but it does need cleaning out with a brush. It could be off the java moss or maybe it is algae as you suggest?? The filter in my 75-litre tank has the spray bar above the filter material, so any bits of stuff drawn up by the intake will get caught in the tube and need to be cleaned out (of course the cap on the bottom of the filter intake should catch all of the gunk, so maybe it isn't stuff from the tank, but algae as you suggest?).
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Old 07-31-2010, 11:09 PM   #23
 
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Photo of tank. Is there enough room for the fish you've suggested Byron. There's quite a lot of "stuff" so the capacity of the tank isn't as high as it would be without the stuff, I suppose? I've tied the driftwood to a rock because it floats so there's one more rock than I wanted. (I need to get another plant for in front of the filter intake, and maybe something else in front of the heater.)
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Old 08-01-2010, 01:07 PM   #24
 
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The more plants the better, yes. But those you have will settle and grow and fill that tank to some extent. I always end of pulling out several plants as this happens.

That's a nice aquascape. There's room for what we've been talking of. By the way, if you prefer Rainbow, get Rainbows instead of angels. Everything else pretty much stays the same.
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Old 08-01-2010, 10:11 PM   #25
 
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The more plants the better, yes. But those you have will settle and grow and fill that tank to some extent.
Hopefully they'll grow The plants I put in my other tanks (yes, I planted the smallest as well, once you get started you can't stop) are doing ok, so I'm encouraged by that. The ambulia seems to grow like a weed (well, grows well, at least) so it shouldn't take long for the back to be covered up. If things don't progress as quickly as I'd like, I could always get some more. The plants in our shops are all small though, so there's no real instant landscape with what you plant, you still have to wait.
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Thanks. I'm happy with it, I think it looks ok (and I'm the one who has to live with it).
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By the way, if you prefer Rainbow, get Rainbows instead of angels.
Ooh, rainbows Thanks. I think I will, although now I've been thinking of angels I like the idea of them too. The rainbows seem to be more compatible with other tetras which gives me more options than the expensive white fins. And it looks like I'd be able to keep my guppy (I'd forgotten about him!) if I get rainbows.

I saw a marbled hatchetfish at the aquarium shop yesterday. They are very odd-looking fish. They look like they are the wrong way up. I won't mind having them, I just wish the things I want to get didn't turn out to be the most expensive things in the shop.... I don't mind so much if they do well, but it can get very expensive very fast if they die. Not that I'm pessimistic, or anything

Thanks for your help, Byron.
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:28 PM   #26
 
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I'm considering either lemon tetras or black skirt tetras? Should they be ok?

Also, would zebra danios work instead of the hatchetfish?

Would my guppy potentially be ok in there with the tetras? He's currently on his own (guppy-wise) with my black neons. They get on well, he schools with the neons. Nobody seems nipped at all.
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Old 08-02-2010, 12:17 AM   #27
 
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I'm considering either lemon tetras or black skirt tetras? Should they be ok?

Also, would zebra danios work instead of the hatchetfish?

Would my guppy potentially be ok in there with the tetras? He's currently on his own (guppy-wise) with my black neons. They get on well, he schools with the neons. Nobody seems nipped at all.
Depends. Are we now thinking Rainbows and not Angels, or still Angels (maybe)?

Zebra danios with Angels, definite no, they are too active. Remember, Angels need quiet companions similar to themselves, nothing boisterous or active. They are sedate, regal fish that deserve what they expect.

Guppy is fine with most of these (Angels can be trouble though, both ways), but water parameters are different; but your near-neutral will work for the time being. But if it does become slightly acidic (which if I recall was the initial thinking here) the guppy would be less happy.

Hatchets need to go into a well established tank. If they do, they are seldom a problem. But in new tanks, they frequently don't last (some anyway). They are very prone to ich, so examine those in the store very carefully if you get any. I have had marbles live more than 8 years. I have also lost many within a few days in new tanks; we learn. Currently I have a group of 14 wild caught marbles in my 115g, they are delightful.
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Old 08-02-2010, 01:10 AM   #28
 
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I'm thinking neon rainbows with the black neons, lemon or black skirts, cories, bristlenose and zebra danios (and my guppy).

If I go with angels, I'll stick to the white fins and hatchetfish, black neons, cories, bristlenose (guppy to go back to the shop, or maybe into small tank with a companion - not ideal, though).

The reason I am not dead set on the white fins and the hatchetfish is because of the price. I'm looking at other options that would work out cheaper.
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