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post #1 of 21 Old 10-03-2011, 08:02 PM Thread Starter
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New 20g Log (Pictures!)

I'm going to keep this thread updated as long as possible on the reg. I just purchased a 20 long at Petco (dollar a gallon sale) a new hood at Pet Supplies Plus (a mini chain in the Connecticut area) and a pretty basic but nice looking, sturdy stand from wal-mart. I'll update this thread by the end of the evening with all the specifics, but here's some pictures to get started.





It's clearing up nicely. There will be more photos by the end of tonight.

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post #2 of 21 Old 10-03-2011, 08:15 PM
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I want a 20L, what are your plans to put in it?
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post #3 of 21 Old 10-03-2011, 08:24 PM Thread Starter
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No idea as far as stocking goes. I have a large sweetaquatics order on the way though. I'm goin to more my aggresive RTS to this tank an maybe get a tiger barb school going, clown loach or two which I've been told will school with the barbs. Other than that, it's up in the air.
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Are you referring to a red tailed shark? You do realize it's going to need a bigger tank? As they get to 6". You might could fit one in a 55g, I'm not sure never had one.

Clown loaches are a bad idea as the need to be in school's of at least 6 and need a very big tank. They grow up to 8"+ and really need about 125 gallons for a proper school.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Either way I'm sure you will do something nice with your new tank.
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post #5 of 21 Old 10-03-2011, 08:48 PM Thread Starter
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The RTS is moving up, I got him as a baby he was so small, now he's moving into this tank from my 10. As he continues to grow I will continue to move him upwards in tank sizes. And as for the loah I know they get big but the same situation applies as the RTS, but I haven't purchased him yet so I may change that. It's just my ideas floating in my mind, and that's why I'm sharing. I need to make some good choices :)
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in my experence, not a good idea to keep red tailed sharks with clown loaches.. read the profiles on this forum to see why.
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I had to take him out of the tank. Within ten minutes he jumped into the HOB filter twice, first time he came out on his own, second time he got stuck and wouldn't come out, I had to rescue him. He didn't have a safe 'cave' like the prior tank, which stressed him out. I think that was the issue.
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post #8 of 21 Old 10-04-2011, 12:08 AM
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How in the world did he manage to jump in the HOB? Glad you got him and he didn't get hurt.
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No idea. Was watching TV, heard a splash, and he was in it. I know RTS are impressive jumpers but it surprised the **** out of me. I bought two pieces of lava rock that have holes and caves in them for his hideout. The last tank he was in had a big cave that he lived in and set up as his territory (he chased all others out of it). I definitely think taking that away from him made him want to escape.
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Picking up on a couple of earlier points in this thread. The RTS is stand-alone as a substrate fish, the profile explains this.

Loaches are very highly social fish; a group of 5 is minimum, but the size of Clown Loach means a 6-foot tank. And while many will maintain the fish can start out in smaller tanks, there is a limit to how small. Fish grow continually and need the space to properly develop internally and externally. It is more space than one might think along the way. Internal deformity can easily occur in too small a space--and this has even more to do with water quality than physical space though these are obviously related--and down the road the increased health problems and almost always premature death can be traced back to the tank size during development.

I have a maxim that I always follow. I never buy any fish that I cannot today accommodate properly at its maximum size. Plans for larger tanks sometimes never materialize for various reasons; and fish grow faster than we might think.

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The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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