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post #11 of 15 Old 01-25-2010, 07:16 AM
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A bristlenose will stay smallish. You have plenty of space in that tank for cool stuff if you wanted it. When I had eels years ago i kept them in very small grain pea gravel and they loved it. I would see heads poking out when they thought no one was looking. I had a yellow spiny kind though and not the bigger ones. You will need driftwood for the the plecos as they require to have some to munch on, although I have never noticed the wood deteriorate from this. The bristlenoses in my African cichlid tank certainly seemed happier when I got a small piece and hid it in the back.

There are some beautiful South American cichlids out there besides the fish you find at Petsmart, and maybe a few that are at PS. Amoung the more common ones you find there, Angels while ok as young, really come into their own as adults with very bold colors and size. They are also sedate and peaceful enough to not spook the eels. I would avoid oscars like the plague if i were you. They really dont have anything going for them, and if I had a fish to call above all others a trash fish, it would be an oscar.

As to why the PS people gave you bad info, they really arent trained. I used to work there back in college and there is no training program. They have no say on what goes in what tanks as well because corp comes in and tells the stores what goes where and god forbid they do a pop inspection and a fish is out of place regardless of whether its better for the fish or not because corporate "knows" better. They are basically told to tell you, "these are community fish and go well together, these are semi-aggressive and go well together, these are mean cichlids and they fight each other"(lol I am actually picturing one of my old co-workers saying that in a chippery voice.) Occassionally you will run into someone who actually knows what they are doing but you have to get that out of them because they are jaded from answering one hundred times a day "why did my fish die? I want 20 more neons to replace them with." I was a bad employee, I knew African cichlids well, not so much on the South American, and knew normal joe fish well, but I quickly got tired of telling people why their fish died and then they would go ask another employee the same question to get an answer they liked and get them to give them twenty more fish for their "big" 10 gallon. I'll get off my soapbox now.

You can always order fish online, some places have some pretty good deals. I havent checked but i imagine the sponsors of this website can help you with some good fish not found at PS and they will probably arrive healthier with as good a garauntee(sp).
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post #12 of 15 Old 01-25-2010, 05:08 PM
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I have seen African brown knives at a few Petsmarts, but the Leopard Bushfish (they might call them African Spotted Leaf Fish there, or something like that) are usually pretty common at Petsmarts.

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post #13 of 15 Old 01-26-2010, 02:10 AM Thread Starter
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I did see the African brown knives today ( I guess i didn't notice them last time or they didnt have any ) And they have African spotted leaf fish, which I'm sure they didn't have before. It seems weird to me to order fish online? How do they stay alive? I've heard of it, just never put much thought into it.

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post #14 of 15 Old 01-26-2010, 03:18 AM
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Usually fish are shipped with oxygen in the bags and heat packs to keep them warm. Sometimes sellers won't ship during cold winter weather, though. Shipping is pretty expensive so it's best if you're placing a big order so that you don't spend more on the shipping than the fish. Better sellers have a live arrival guarantee and will replace fish that arrive dead.

That said, you might also be able to order fish through a store. Most LFS's will let you do this and I believe it's possible through Petsmart as well. Talk to the person in charge of their fish department and they might be able to order fish that they don't usually stock from their supplier and let you know when they come in. The advantage to doing this is that you don't have to pay for shipping and if the fish are DOA or really sick or something like that, the store can deal with their suppliers instead of forcing you to return fish or try to get a refund.

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post #15 of 15 Old 01-27-2010, 09:23 AM Thread Starter
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I really don't want to spend a load of cash on a gravel cleaner, any suggestions?

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