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post #21 of 28 Old 09-17-2009, 10:04 PM Thread Starter
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I am learning all sorts of lessons tonight. The latest of which, "when you have sand, unplug the filter before a water change"

I locked up quite nicely, but I was able to take it apart and get the grit out, and it is running now. Yet another disaster averted,

Should I be allowed to own fish?

Won't make that mistake again!
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post #22 of 28 Old 09-18-2009, 03:27 AM
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Byron as usual and thankfully, offers sound advice Especially with regards to keeping that which we place in aquariums in the way of chemicals to a minimum.
I would only make a comment with regards to Seachems Neutral regulator. While I am not a fan of most chemical media and or potions I do use Seachems product.. Purigen which is a good scavenger of ammonia and organics that are not wanted in the aquarium. I began using it while caring for Discus to help maintain water quality due to frequent feeding of small Discus that was required to achieve proper growth. I used an automatic feeder while at work to feed the fish and was not able to perform water changes until I got home. Otherwise,, I would have no need for the product.
Purigen is recharged by soaking in one to one solution of bleach and water for 24 hours followed by soaking in Seachems NEUTRAL Regulator which removes chlorine for another 24 hours.
I mention this out of fear that some may consider the neutral regulator as a water conditioner and in my view it's not. It does say on the label that it addresses chlorine but it does nothing for chloramines found in most tapwater and as such, should not be confused with water conditioner such as prime that addresses both chlorine,and chloramines along with ammonia.
It is as Byron and myself stress, Best to use ONLY,, that which is needed in the aquarium with regards to chemicals. All one really needs ,is a full function water conditioner unless they are attempting to alter their parameters for sensitive species of fish ,or wild caught fish, and then only if one has a firm grasp on what these chemicals do and how they do it.

The most important medication in your fish medicine cabinet is.. Clean water.
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post #23 of 28 Old 09-18-2009, 09:07 AM Thread Starter
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The Neutral Regulator is in the garbage. One of my plants still has white powder on it, so I can only imagine what my filter looks like. I don't want to do anything yet since my pygmies are coming in today, but in a week or so when they have acclimated I imagine I am going to have to give that filter cartrighe a thorough rinsing in tank water to get the white crud out. Another of what I suspect will be a series of lessons learned.
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I would not worry about the residual that may be on the filter. It will have dissolved within a matter of hours. I would gently rinse the filter cartridge and only if,, and when ,,water flowing through it has slowed significantly. Filter material holds the lions share of beneficial bacteria in new tanks and getting too aggressive with rinsing it can kill off the bacteria that you have waited on to develop. Gently swishing it around in old tank water is all that is ever needed. I would also think with just shrimp and plants thus far ,that cleaning the sand as you mentioned should not be needed unless overfeeding. Remember, the beneficial bacteria is developing on everything in the aquarium, sand,gravel,rocks,wood,glass,and the filter. By trying to keep things too clean,, we often shoot ourselves in the foot so to speak.

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I would not worry about the residual that may be on the filter. It will have dissolved within a matter of hours. I would gently rinse the filter cartridge and only if,, and when ,,water flowing through it has slowed significantly. Filter material holds the lions share of beneficial bacteria in new tanks and getting too aggressive with rinsing it can kill off the bacteria that you have waited on to develop. Gently swishing it around in old tank water is all that is ever needed. I would also think with just shrimp and plants thus far ,that cleaning the sand as you mentioned should not be needed unless overfeeding. Remember, the beneficial bacteria is developing on everything in the aquarium, sand,gravel,rocks,wood,glass,and the filter. By trying to keep things too clean,, we often shoot ourselves in the foot so to speak.
Agree completely. Mikey, let us know how everything went afterwards. Just take your time mixing the water and the pygmies will be fine. And a piece of wood or even a rock for now in the tank would give them some security.

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Mikey,
I tried the link Eileen gave you and some of the fish it told me to go with the Honey Gouramis I will be getting, require different ph and temps then the Gourami do so please be sure they are compatable water wise.

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post #27 of 28 Old 09-18-2009, 01:07 PM Thread Starter
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Well, 5 of the 6 survived shipping. 2 are together on one half of the tank, and the other 3 are kind of seperated not moving much on the other. Wow, are they tiny! I tried to take pics, but my little Fuji pocket cam wants to autofocus on the glass :(
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Mikey,
I tried the link Eileen gave you and some of the fish it told me to go with the Honey Gouramis I will be getting, require different ph and temps then the Gourami do so please be sure they are compatable water wise.
I'll have some comments on this issue tomorrow. These compatibility lists are a fine beginning, but they can't take into account all the variables as you've noticed. More to come, now I'm off to town.

Mikey, glad to hear they arrived.

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