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Old 12-01-2008, 09:21 AM   #21
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Miserable is sort of a catch all term.

Temperature wise, someone in that tank is unhappy. If you've got a heater the odds are the goldfish feel like they're sitting in a house in the middle of summer with no AC. If you don't then the tropicals feel like they sitting in a house in winter with no heater. They're not in danger of death due to temperature but they are out of their comfort zone and not happy. They'll be stressed, the temperature won't give them a disease but the stress on them will make them much more susceptible to catching something.

Space wise the fish will get crowded. You've got three fish in there that are going to get big. In fact the shark (can you get a picture of him?) if he's a bala (very shiny silver) could get big enough that his nose could touch one end of the tank and his tail the other. The goldfish are going to get big enough that they'll take up a big chunk of the space all on their own. They won't be able to get away from the other fish or relax. You're not likely to see any normal behaviors when they are this packed together. Some fish get more agressive, some hide more, none of them will be happy. This crowding will stress the fish as well. Stress weakens their immune systems and... disease.

Waste wise, again you've got some very big fish in the tank that will make lots of waste. Now if your biofilter can eventually grow to handle them (and that is a VERY BIG if) you're going to be on a razor's edge. With that little volume of water per fish even the slightest upset in the biofilter can lead to a huge ammonia spike and potentially dead fish.

As it was said, happier healthy fish will be brighter in color, more active, and much more robust. We're not trying to be downers but what you've got going is not likely to end well and in a tank that size you're not likely to lose one fish you're likely to lose them all if something happens. The goldfish need to go back as does the shark. Guppies can make for nice fish to watch and if you don't want to deal with the babies then either the male or female need to go back as well. It's rough, its not fun, but its for the best. There's a lot you can do with a ten gallon tank that will still be sustainable and you'll enjoy. In a few years when you've got a few more bucks you can get yourself a tank and have some goldfish in an environment that can support them.
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:05 PM   #22
Here are some pics I took the other day!

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Old 12-01-2008, 05:36 PM   #23
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It's a redtail shark, right? I think that's what I'm seeing in the photo...
They don't get as large as the balas but he will be too large for your tank. Sorry....
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:42 PM   #24
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Your shark isn't infact a bala it is a red tail. So i believe they are solitary fish and don't need a partner to thrive. I also if i am correct they can be kept in a 10g but most not be kept with that many fish. they are also semi-agressive fish and should not be kept in a community tank. SO you not have to return him but you would probibly have to return the goldfishes and maybe/maybe not the guppies. Good Luck!

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Old 12-01-2008, 08:43 PM   #25
This is off-topic but the pots in there are clay, not terracotta. Are they the same thing or will they harm my fish? I just put them in 2 days ago. What do you guys think of them?
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:28 PM   #26
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I think they are one in the same. I've always called them terracotta clay pots. I *think* terracotta refers to the color of the clay?? I'm sure the pots you have in the tank are fine but someone else will have to confirm this. I know I have seen these pots being used by fish for spawning in cichlid tanks.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:42 PM   #27
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I am not sure, but it looks like from the picture that the tank is 78+ degrees, which I believe is much too warm for the goldfish to be comfortable....
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:52 AM   #28
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Actually the shark is a rainbow shark, a redtail is the one in my avatar. Only the tail is read. His shark has all red fins. It doesn't change much though, it's going to get to be much larger, in the 6" to 7" range. They're listed as semi-aggressive but they get a bad rep. Like red tails they can be kept but you need to follow some simple guidelines.

First, one shark per tank unless it is a BIG tank, 75+ gallons. They are anti-social loners and having more than one in a tank is a good way to wind up with one shark.
Second, they are territorial bottom dwellers. Don't add other bottom dwellers that are territorial or can become so unless it is a big tank. Rams I'm looking at you. Have lots of cover and hiding places in the tank. The shark will likely stake his or her claim on a cave and defend the area around it as their territory
Third, don't add them first or when they are adults. The best way to add a shark is last and young. If they are added last they are less likely to claim the entire tank as their territory and less likely to be able to boss around the other fish.

That being said it's not a suitable fish for a ten gallon tank as they can get to be 6"+ and there's just not enough room for them to stake out a territory and they'll likely fight a lot. However is this actually a ten gallon tank? I'm not getting a great sense of perspective from the pictures. What are the dimensions of the tank?
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Old 12-02-2008, 10:21 AM   #29
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Good ID on the shark. I didn't even know there was such thing as a Rainbow Shark. You learn something new everyday. Thanks Tyyrlym!!
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Old 12-02-2008, 03:30 PM   #30
thank you for the identification! I thought he was a Bala...ok so I believe you guys about everything you've said but I don't understand why the guy at the fish store says it's ok. I'm kinda confused....
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