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post #11 of 16 Old 09-16-2011, 10:47 PM Thread Starter
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I got mine at ace hardware, they cut it to fit for me, it has bowed a little but i have plenty of screen covers if i need to reinforce it :) thanks for the heads up though!
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post #12 of 16 Old 09-17-2011, 12:33 PM
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New here, but I have been hobby fishkeeping for around 12 years now and had a few questions.

I'm starting up a 29 gallon tank, and plans are to so a sand/flourite mix bottom, planted tank. Now I'm trying to decide if i want to convert an existing light hood from incandescent to compact flourescent (if
I can find the bulbs) or go with an LED light setup, What I need to know is if the LED lights are going to be sufficient to meet the live plants needs, or are the CFL bulbs going to suit the tank better? I'm trying to shoot for around 2 WPG equivalent with either light setup. Either one is going to be a DIY project, because I do not have 100$ to drop on a new fixture.

As far as stock goes, im very limited to what I can put in, I live at a really high elevation and have found there are some fish who just cannot survive it (plecos, angels, gouramis). I have a current setup 10g planted with harlequin rasboras and a male betta and they seem to be doing ok (had the H. rasboras for over a year and the betta for about 2 months) I would love to do some dwarf rainbows in the new 29 gallon tank, a school of von rio tetras and possibly some dwarf cories. But have not tried any at this altitude (7800 ft above sea level) so any suggestions on how to make the transition easier? They have to travel from denver to the mountains, about a 2 hour trip. (it is the closest place to buy any fish)

thanks in advance for any advice!
Welcome to Tropical Fish Keeping forum. Glad to have you with us.

Some of this will repeat what's been said by other members, but I'll just respond to your questions as best as I can. I agree on the light as zof suggested, nothing to add there except that wattage bears no accurate relationship to intensity. Over a 29g with CFL bulbs, three will be sufficient. The standard screw-in fit regular receptacles, and three 10w or 3 13w will work fine. No idea about the cover issue, but I use a glass cover on my tanks and find it good. There is heat generated by the lights, and you need something clear between the light bulbs and the water to prevent splashing and condensation on the bulbs which will explode if splashed. You can buy nice glass covers for standard-sized tanks that are not expensive. The front slides back or lifts up for feeding.

Filters: on a 20g one internal will be sufficient. Live plants do the major job of filtration anyway, plus you don't want a lot of water movement both for the plants and the fish.

Mixing substrates seldom works, unless both are the same colour and same sized grains. Having sand, fine gravel and Flourite substrates in various of my tanks, I can say you will be fine with plain sand. Have as look at the photos under "Aquariums" below my name on the left; the log mentions the substrate in each tank, and plant growth for me is good whichever.

On the fish, will only point you to our profiles, second tab from the left in the blue bar across the top. Info on water parameters, tank size, numbers (for shoaling fish which you mention), etc. are in the profiles.

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thanks for the info! Any advice is really appreciated.

The filter i ordered is not big but has a flow rate of 120GPH , it is pretty basic but comes with a spray bar. So just one should be fine?
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thanks for the info! Any advice is really appreciated.

The filter i ordered is not big but has a flow rate of 120GPH , it is pretty basic but comes with a spray bar. So just one should be fine?
I never bother over flow rates; if it is recommended for a 29g tank, fine. And a spray bar is ideal in planted tanks; you can position it at the surface along one of the end walls and direct the flow down the wall slightly. Ideal. All you really need is something to gently move the water around and contain pads/sponges/floss to filter out small particulate matter. No carbon or similar chemical stuff; that is the plant's job, and these things usually remove nutrients that the plants need anyway.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If youíre going to take it under your wing then youíre responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #15 of 16 Old 09-17-2011, 03:28 PM Thread Starter
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yeah, i never use carbon in any of my tanks, and i do not replace media, i rinse it off and throw it back in :) no need to waste good bacteria IMO.

i will def use the tip to arrange the spray bar, never thought of that...

I went today and got my sand and some bulbs, they make the tank soo much brighter, i ended up with 2 20W 5000k bulbs, they did not have anything higher... I hope they will be ok, I am not planning to do any serious high light plants, mainly java fern, anubias, corkscrew val, and wisteria, i am tossing up between some java moss or dwarf tear grass though, not sure which i like more..

I have a decent size piece of driftwood on the way, have not seen what it looks like but it is going to be large. so for now i just have a peice of slate and a rock in there so it does not lok so boring. Still no water, that will be next weeks adventure.

What do you guys think so far? I put about 40 lbs of the sand in, its about 1.5 inches deep in the lowest spot.

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That is enough sand. And the light sounds fine. 5000K is on the warm side, but the plants will be fine. "Warm" means the white colour, warm white having more red and less blue in the mix, cool white the opposite.

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