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post #11 of 23 Old 01-08-2013, 01:09 PM
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Thank you, I agree the API master kit sounds like a good investment and a good birthday present since I looked up prices her in New Zealand are just over $80 a lot of money for a 13year old.
Ouch, seeing as your AUD is pretty close to our CAD, that's pretty steep. I bought one for $19.99 two weeks ago and can order one online for $24.99 now... they don't ship to your neck of the woods though.

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post #12 of 23 Old 01-08-2013, 01:12 PM
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$80 o.O

I'd look around some more. The New Zealand Dollar isn't that different from the USD (30 USD is 36 NZ$). I know things cost different amounts in different places, but I wouldn't expect that large of a difference.

It may be that it's just not normally available in your country. While looking, also look for alternatives. The API test is generally the only option here in the US for a liquid test kit, and it being a liquid test kit is the key. The strips tend to absorb water from the air which is why they get inaccurate. Perhaps in New Zealand there is a different brand that's also a liquid test kit.

For cycling I would ask him a question on more of the specifics of how he did it. For example did he put ammonia in on day 1, then nothing? Or did he add ammonia every single day?

The bacteria need a constant supply of ammonia, it is their food. With only a single supply they may have formed, used it, then died off if they didn't get a continuous supply (like what happens from fish producing waste every day).
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I found a slightly cheaper kit for $69 as good as I'm gonna get here in NZ I think.
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So sorry to hear the kit is so expensive in NZ. At least you could take solace in the fact your 13 yr old will be learning not only patience with a fish tank, but a bit about chemistry and science to boot. He has probably read about the test kit online many times and I bet this would be one b-day present he will always remember, especially beings he never actually asked for it. (probably due to the price) Sounds to me like you have one great boy there.
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Lol...thanks yeah wish it was cheaper however it's a good investment and it will keep him busy and out of trouble not that he's a troublemaker..lol..I just enjoy watching him get excited and get so involved in something like this.
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It is great to watch kids take an interest in something productive.

Our tank is really a Christmas gift for our 14 year old daughter, Grandparents and relatives were in cahoots so she got gift cards for the LFS and cash for fishy stuff. While a lot of it is somewhat beyond her (it's a big tank for a kid) I am now comfortable enough that she is going to be taking over some of the chores involved... she likes doing that sort of thing and is excited about feeding, testing and changing water and looking forward to our next batch of fish inmates... errr, tank mates.

She'll be on her own for about two weeks while I am away next month, so she'll be it.

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The shotgun approach to a planted tank with an LED fixture

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post #17 of 23 Old 01-08-2013, 03:06 PM
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I would get him growing some live plants in the tank first.

But that's just me.

To the experts here isn't a kh of 40 and gh of 30 kinda reversed?

Just a thought.

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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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Hi, I'm not exactly sure what his plans are but he is planning on putting in some live plants. Thanks
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Hi, I'm not exactly sure what his plans are but he is planning on putting in some live plants. Thanks

that good.

IIME if you can get the live plants in there and thriving (optimally) right from the start, then the fish added later will do much better. Meanwhile he has some neat things other then just a container with water in it.


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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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I would get him growing some live plants in the tank first.

But that's just me.

To the experts here isn't a kh of 40 and gh of 30 kinda reversed?

Just a thought.

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Ditto the plants, even some stems just left to float, that's about as easy and cheap as you can get.

If you read the test kit instructions, BBob, that's how the strips are incremented, different incrementation for each type of hardness... and it's ppm, not degrees. That's down in the under 6 or 7 d#H ranges or lower I think, so they are actually very similar numbers being only 10ppm apart. The charts only go to 12d#H for either type. I am sure that strips don't even measure that high in degrees.

Oh, you would be correct in theory but it also depends on the accuracy of the strip and the read of the colours. Mine were right side by side and I think the KH was one or two degrees higher but I would have to look at my log to be sure. The varied incrementation could easily account for the apparent discrepancy.

dGH = 30,60,120,180
dKH= 40,80,120,240

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Total years fish keeping experience: 7 months, can't start counting in years for a while yet.

The shotgun approach to a planted tank with an LED fixture

Small scale nitrogen cycle with a jar, water and fish food; no substrate, filter etc

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