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Need advice: good begginer fish and plants?
Old 09-01-2010, 01:09 PM   #41
 
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I can't help you with the Betta thing as I have no experience with them yet. I just wanted to encourage you to keep researching and thank you for taking your time to do so. So many people decide they want something and even though it simply will not work out, they do it. It always ends the same... fish deaths. It is true that with so many options, and differing opinions, it is overwhelming at times.

Once you have made your selection, you will hopefully be very happy with your tank for many years to come. Do you have any fish in your tank yet?
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:29 PM   #42
 
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I can't help you with the Betta thing as I have no experience with them yet. I just wanted to encourage you to keep researching and thank you for taking your time to do so. So many people decide they want something and even though it simply will not work out, they do it. It always ends the same... fish deaths. It is true that with so many options, and differing opinions, it is overwhelming at times.

Once you have made your selection, you will hopefully be very happy with your tank for many years to come. Do you have any fish in your tank yet?

I'm still trying to get the tank to cycle so there's no fish yet. Got water, added ammonia, playing the waiting game now.

I'm reluctant to add any fish untill it's decided what the final stocking would be anyway. I do not plan to throw em all in at once, just to have a final setting.
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:36 PM   #43
 
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I'm still trying to get the tank to cycle so there's no fish yet. Got water, added ammonia, playing the waiting game now.

I'm reluctant to add any fish untill it's decided what the final stocking would be anyway. I do not plan to throw em all in at once, just to have a final setting.
Good plan to not add them all at once. That could end poorly. Is this a planted tank? If you have a lot of plants in the tank, you can add a few fish right away. Plants, cycle a tank almost immediately. This is assuming you have quite a few plants in the tank, not just one or two. I am sorry that I do not remember what fish each person on here is thinking about or if they have plants or not.

Just food for thought
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:53 PM   #44
 
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Good plan to not add them all at once. That could end poorly. Is this a planted tank? If you have a lot of plants in the tank, you can add a few fish right away. Plants, cycle a tank almost immediately. This is assuming you have quite a few plants in the tank, not just one or two. I am sorry that I do not remember what fish each person on here is thinking about or if they have plants or not.

Just food for thought

Currently there's about 6 of Vallisneria spiralis "tiger" and 1 anubias nana. The Lilaeopsis brasiliensis rotted off Not something I'd call a planted tank yet.
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:03 PM   #45
 
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LOL No, probably not, but it is a start. Keep up the good work and you will get there. What other plants are you thinking of adding? Are you getting them at a local store? chainstore or privately owned?
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:13 AM   #46
 
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MY fish tank is about to be cycled I think, so I'd like to hear some thought of the next stocking plan

  • 9 Harlequin rasboras- Would it be ok to add all nine at once, since I'm doing a fishless cycle? or do i stick to 3-4 fish per week?
  • 3 Otos - adding a week later- I have a nice amount of brown and green algae, would feed with waffers too tho
  • 4 panda cory - adding a week after otos - for bottom dwellers and cleaning up behind others
  • Betta, added last, from a community tank in fish store, with back-up plan to keep it seperately should he be a problem.

I also added a piece of driftwood, some JavaMoss, relocated the Anubias nana and my tiger plant is about to take over half the tank.

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LOL No, probably not, but it is a start. Keep up the good work and you will get there. What other plants are you thinking of adding? Are you getting them at a local store? chainstore or privately owned?
Im thinking of finding a nice tall plant for somewhere in the center of the aquarium, but am yet to find one that has similar needs to the ones i have now.

I'm buying the plants at a chainstore. There's 3 different chainstores all over the country, but so far none of them had any real knowledge bout plants or fish. The reason I'm not buying at some privately owned expert store...is that there is none. Maybe going abroad to see if the situation is any better but you can imagine that's not a very handy solution.

So my plan is to get info on the nets, find latin names, write them down and find them on the tags under the fish store aquariums hoping they didn't get it wrong. Same goes for plants.

updated pic of the cycling tank:

Cheers!
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Old 09-23-2010, 10:48 AM   #47
 
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We have fish profiles, second tab from the left in the blue bar at the top; all fish you mention are included, and in fact most of what you will find in any fish store in the way of tetra, rasbora, catfish are in our profiles. Each has info on requirements, compatibility, numbers needed, etc.

I still do not recommend a Betta in a community tank. Fish in store tanks may behave one way, but when settled in a "quiet" tank turn out quite different. They are not community fish.

A few more plants, then you could add fish with no worry about cycling; in well planted tanks there will be no cycle.

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Old 09-23-2010, 10:55 AM   #48
 
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I agree with Byron on a few more plants and you will be okay regarding your cycle BUT please keep in mind that does not mean 20 fish at once. You still want to pace yourself, add fish slowly, and check water parameters daily for the first few weeks. Looking good so far.
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Old 09-26-2010, 01:50 PM   #49
 
Cycling done

My tank finnished cycling with no additional plants, tho the vallisneria is now practically covering the whole lenght of the back of the aquarium.

Last night I added 5 Harlequin Rasboras, and they are much more active then in the store. Which was a pleasant surprise, they also have very nice colours, orange-silvery around the black triangle. Eating well, shooting around the tank.

Today I tested the water, no2=0 nh4=0, gonna check these every night for the first week.

As I said before I don't intend on dumping in all the fish I plan to have, but how many is a good amount to prevent mini-cycles?

Another 4 rasboras would almost double the load so I thought maybe 2 in a week and another 2 next week. On the other hand, won't the BB die off if I started off too small?

Tank size 100L / 26g
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Old 09-26-2010, 01:58 PM   #50
 
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Remember, the bacteria isn't important if you get more plants. :)
Also, they won't die off, their population will just reflect the amount of fish. Adding fish slowly gives the bacteria time to reproduce.


Perhaps a small swordplant?

Hairgrass or echindorus tenellus (chain sword) would look nice in the foreground, some crypts or swordplants for the back. (Good swords would be E. Augustifolia, E. Ozelot, E.Osiris, and possibly E. Blehiri Compacta)

Perhaps some moss on that wood to soften it?
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