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Need advice for companions for Black Skirt Tetras in 10 gal tank
Old 01-24-2013, 06:45 AM   #11
 
Obviously I did something very wrong. All 3 fish croaked last night. If I get septo bac, wil that help with the beneficial bacteria / nitrogen cycling process? How long should I wait till I put something in there? I'm going back and forth btw getting 1 fantail Goldfish (and nothing else) OR 1 male betta and maybe 2 otos? I just don't want to kill anymore fish.

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Old 01-24-2013, 06:52 AM   #12
 
sorry for your loss, what are your water parameters?
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:45 AM   #13
 
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Obviously I did something very wrong. All 3 fish croaked last night. If I get septo bac, wil that help with the beneficial bacteria / nitrogen cycling process? How long should I wait till I put something in there? I'm going back and forth btw getting 1 fantail goldfish (and nothing else) OR 1 male betta and maybe 2 otos? I just don't want to kill anymore fish.
First, do not rush out to buy any fish. This tank was not cycled and the fish died of ammonia poisoning. I can explain.

A new tank must cycle. This is what we call the establishment of certain bacteria to handle the ammonia and then the nitrite. You can read all about this here, please take the time to read this:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...m-cycle-38617/

Next, you need to plan what fish will work. You have a 10g which is quite small, too small for goldfish so please forget that.

Water parameters. Bottled water isn't always good for fish, unless it is completely pure water such as distilled or RO (reverse osmosis) but then you have to add minerals to it. We should look into your well water. Is there anything wrong with the well water? Do you drink it? How hard is it? Once we know this, we can look at fish, and consider live plants which will help with the cycling and continual water stability.

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:57 PM   #14
 
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Hey mate. Pleas read byrons sticky. All sorts of good info. I always read them before posting. But ultimately do you have a test kit for ammonia nitrite and nitrate? If not may I recommend you get them. With my ten gallon I planted it and let it run for a couple of weeks until I saw plant growth. Try doing a fish less cycle using fish food. It may take a few weeks but this in my opinion lets everything settle. You should see ammonia spike, then nitrite spike and then both will return to zero. Nitrates will start increasing. That's the cycle. I didn't do water changes during the cycle.
Once that was done I gave the substrate a good vacuum and filter a rinse in tank water. 10%. Water change and added my first school of neons. After a couple of weeks added the next and so on.
Just try to keep in mind that a small change in a small tank is massive. Yet in a 30g it won't be as detrimental.

Hope you get it sorted. Goodluck
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:36 AM   #15
 
Byron and Titan: Thankyou so much. I really did not understand that the tank needed so much time and I really rushed things. I canned the goldfish idea. But I didn't read these posts till after buying a betta. He's not in the tank though. Will he be okay waiting out the two weeks? And no I don't have test trips. The cheapest thing I found was $18 and the lady at the store said they weren't really nessesary. Looks like ill be making another trip to the store! And thx for the tip on not changing the water. When it got cloudy I started changing some out for clean water. Now I see that it's part of the bacteria building process. I didn't realize fish owning was so complicated! Really I am learning so much here.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:39 AM   #16
 
I forgot to add... Will buying the bottle of bacteria adding stuff at the store help the process?
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:44 AM   #17
 
Oh and the well water: we drink it but filter it with a brita pitcher cause it tastes like pennies. It also leaves a green rim around anything it sits in long enough. I haven't had any testing done on it.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:09 AM   #18
 
bettas arn`t sesitive to low oxygen content so yes he can wait it out since they are labyrinth fish witch means they breathe air from our atmosphere tahnds to that special organn called a labrinth or somthing like that it is called
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:25 AM   #19
 
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Indeed it is th labyrinth enabling this.
Second...I'm sure it's limestone that cause this. I might be wrong. If so, I'd guess you were on the hard side of water, and so fish choices become a little more limited, but by no means are you short of options.
When you say leave the betta out......where EXACTLY will he be living?
If I was you I'd return the betta....unless that's ALL you want. Bettas do not make good community fish as a general rule.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:49 AM   #20
 
Betta is all I want. I've decided to be super simple about this whole fish keeping business since I seem to be challenged. :)
He is in store container and water still but partially submerged in tank to keep him warm since that is heated. Yes limestone I believe is what is causing the green from the well water. I have spring water from store in tank.
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