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post #1 of 13 Old 09-11-2009, 06:32 PM Thread Starter
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Mystery Cycling Product

So I picked up a bottle of stuff today that I am pretty skeptical of. It claims to cycle your aquarium instantly (which is dubious). The owner of my lfs and her dad (the co-owner) both swear by it and have been really upfront with me in throughout the course of my dealings with them. They both claim to have cycled even their own fish tanks at home instantly with this stuff...just dumping it in and putting fish in with no problems. What do you guys think?
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post #2 of 13 Old 09-11-2009, 07:49 PM
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I would be skeptical since the address on the back doesnt include a city or state to send corresspondence to if you find you lost a bunch of fish that cost you some money.......To me shortcuts in the aquarium trade usually dont work......IMO, i wouldnt trust it..............It may boost the cycle, but i find it hard to believe its an instant fix
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well, I photoshopped out the address since it was the address of my fish store itself. I didn't figure they would want their address out on the web.

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i see......makes sense, but i still would be skeptical if the product doesnt have an address for the manufacturer......If it fails, who would you contact?........Your local fish store?..........I'm leary of things like this that hit the market and no one else has ever heard of them.........Who knows, maybe its gonna be the next big thing, but until i hear of good reviews i would take it with a grain of aquarium salt!....LOL
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Yeah, I bought it...and they swear it works...but I don't know if I'm going to use it. I ordered some more equipment for my new tank from them today...I might ask them if they guarantee it when my stuff comes in...like if I use it and my fish die they will replace them. They've been quite good to me so they might do it, but this stuff seems awfully sketchy.

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8 out of 10 times if something sounds too good to be true it usually is.
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post #7 of 13 Old 09-12-2009, 09:17 AM Thread Starter
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very true.

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I would not use this stuff. First, we've no idea what's in it. Reputable (=honest) firms have ingredients if not on the bottle at least available on their website or when you ask [not being able to contact them to ask is, as mentioned previously, highly suspicious].

Second, to actually "eliminate" ammonia and nitrite is either misleading at best, or false at worst. Some ammonia-control products detoxify the ammonia (some convert it to ammonium which is relatively harmless to fish) but I can't imagine what chemical would actually eliminate or remove it. And besides, you want the ammonia in the tank, either for the plants if a planted tank, or for the bacteria if no plants. Nitrite the same. There is no way to circumvent nature.

If this is actually live bacteria, then it would--on that basis only--be fine. But given the above, I would not risk it. Rather go with a proven product that will jump-start the nitrification cycle immediately. There is a frozen bacteria called Bio-Spira [kymmie or Twistersmom, have I got that name correct?] that does this, and Seachem's "Stability" does it. Both these are bacteria. Dr. Tim Hovanec developed the method of keeping live bacteria in a bottle a few years ago, and biologists say it does work. Nutrafin's "Cycle" has worked for me several years ago; it is not live bacteria but it somehow gets the bacteria established pretty fast, and it has a proven track record. However, in keeping with my belief that only known essentials should go into a tank with fish, I use "Stability" myself [can't buy the frozen one in Canada].

Of course, having live plants in the tank from day one will immediately cycle the tank when the first few fish are put in, so that sems a safer and more reliable method. Again using nature.

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Yeah, the no ingredients part worried me when I got it home and actually took a look at it. When I go back in I will ask them where they get it, just out of curiosity. I've decided against using it, at least it wasn't expensive. I opened it up and took a look at what's inside...it pretty much looks like a bottle of water. No smell, no color, same viscosity as water....seems odd. Good to know the plants will help me do it quick, since I plan on getting them.

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Of course it has it's ingredients listed: 100% live nitrifying bacteria!

I probably wouldn't use the stuff if I were you, even if they 'insured' your fish, it's always harder to un-pour stuff into an aquarium.
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