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View Poll Results: If I had a 220 Gallon Aquarium, I would stock....
Cichlids. Duh. 34 30.36%
It would be Saltwater. That's how I roll. 11 9.82%
Bala Sharks 14 12.50%
Tinfoil Barbs 6 5.36%
1 Male Betta 6 5.36%
100 Neon Tetras 23 20.54%
Rainbowfish 13 11.61%
Goldfish 4 3.57%
Other - Please elaborate in a comment in the thread. 22 19.64%
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post #861 of 1118 Old 12-06-2012, 12:47 PM
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Oh bummer!! Sorry you have lost another!!
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post #862 of 1118 Old 12-08-2012, 05:12 PM
no one posted on this thread for a few days seems weird I came to catch up after not reading for a few days thinking I would have to read for an hour and catch up and no one has posted. hope all is okay cf
my clown loach passed and after ready up on what I think was going on with him skinny disease I have purchased some parasite medicine and am going to treat everyone in the 120 gallon tomorrow after my water change the other five look good one is a bit smaller then the others but I noticed some 2 of my golden zebras are growing as big as everyone else so will treat its says to treat for bacteria and parasites taking turns I have just treated for bacteria one of my rainbows looked fuzzy so will treat for parasites now
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no one posted on this thread for a few days seems weird I came to catch up after not reading for a few days thinking I would have to read for an hour and catch up and no one has posted. hope all is okay cf
my clown loach passed and after ready up on what I think was going on with him skinny disease I have purchased some parasite medicine and am going to treat everyone in the 120 gallon tomorrow after my water change the other five look good one is a bit smaller then the others but I noticed some 2 of my golden zebras are growing as big as everyone else so will treat its says to treat for bacteria and parasites taking turns I have just treated for bacteria one of my rainbows looked fuzzy so will treat for parasites now
I don't have time to go back through this thread (or novel, more like) to check out what has been going on with your fish, so this is just a caution about using any medications. Always make sure they are applicable to the issue. All medications stress fish to some degree, some more than others. If there is something in the tank, the fish are likely already under some stress in fighting it off, and any further stress make weaken them and lower their resistance, making the issue even worse. Unless you can be sure of the issue and treat with the appropriate product.

The general over-the-counter preparations can be dangerous, and even lethal. I speak from experience.

Second point is never use more than one product unless a knowledgeable microbiologist or similar confirms, or you do a massive water change to remove any trace of the prior substance. Two products can sometimes interact and be lethal, or more stressful at best.

Final thought, if the actual fish are not showing distinct signs of a disease, it is always best not to treat the tank. Antibiotics can kill bacteria including the good ones, and harm plants, in addition to the fish issue above.

It is amazing how often just a few good water changes will clear things up. The fresh water, provided parameters are close to the tank water, invigorates fish and helps to strengthen their immune system.

Byron.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If youíre going to take it under your wing then youíre responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #864 of 1118 Old 12-08-2012, 08:08 PM
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I don't have time to go back through this thread (or novel, more like) to check out what has been going on with your fish, so this is just a caution about using any medications. Always make sure they are applicable to the issue. All medications stress fish to some degree, some more than others. If there is something in the tank, the fish are likely already under some stress in fighting it off, and any further stress make weaken them and lower their resistance, making the issue even worse. Unless you can be sure of the issue and treat with the appropriate product.

The general over-the-counter preparations can be dangerous, and even lethal. I speak from experience.

Second point is never use more than one product unless a knowledgeable microbiologist or similar confirms, or you do a massive water change to remove any trace of the prior substance. Two products can sometimes interact and be lethal, or more stressful at best.

Final thought, if the actual fish are not showing distinct signs of a disease, it is always best not to treat the tank. Antibiotics can kill bacteria including the good ones, and harm plants, in addition to the fish issue above.

It is amazing how often just a few good water changes will clear things up. The fresh water, provided parameters are close to the tank water, invigorates fish and helps to strengthen their immune system.

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ok I will hold off and monitor that Clown Loach very closely I don't want to loose another I know internal parasites are quite common in them
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ok I will hold off and monitor that Clown Loach very closely I don't want to loose another I know internal parasites are quite common in them
If this is an internal protozoan, the only safe and really effective treatment is to feed medicated food.

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post #866 of 1118 Old 12-09-2012, 08:15 PM
So if it is prazipro will not work? I haven't been able to find medicated food
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I've never used that product, and I am not a microbiologist, so I won't hazzard a guess on effectiveness. But this is going in the water, and internal parasites are best dealt with internally, via food.

I have had two types of protozoan in the past couple of years, brought in on new fish, and both times on advice I was successful using metronidazole which you mix with prepared foods. Aquarium Solutions make a product called Metro+ that works well, and there is another by Seachem called simply Metronidazole. I have used both. You mix them with flake foods and sinking foods in a zip-lock bag; the longer they remain together the more the food with its oils with take up the metronidazole. Then feed normally. This does not stress the fish further than what they are already handling, and it gets inside where it is needed.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If youíre going to take it under your wing then youíre responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #868 of 1118 Old 12-09-2012, 09:11 PM
Thanks I will try to get some
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post #869 of 1118 Old 12-10-2012, 04:21 PM Thread Starter
Thanks guys. Sorry to hear about your clown loach Boxer. I have been away from my computer for a couple of days, Christmas shopping/decorating. We got our tree up and decorated, along with the rest of the house.

Man, one of my Silver Dollars may die. The strangest thing just happened.

I was sitting here in the living room and all the sudden I hear this loud clunking noise from the fish tank. I go and open the doors to the stand, and my Silver Dollar is laying on my power bar. I have no idea how he made it out of the tank. I couldn't believe my eyes. The clunking must have been him flopping around. I picked him up and put him back in the tank. He is swimming around, for now. But that is a long time with no water, (less than a minute, but more than a couple of seconds), not to mention the stress he must have felt. I doubt he'll make it through the night. We'll see.

I have NO idea how he got out. They splash around sometimes, but must have gone out the back, since he ended up inside the stand. One of the hoods has ALL the tabs still in place. The other hood only has a small amount of space between the filter and heater. And these are BIG Silver Dollars.

Twocents, it was the catfish who was stuck on the water intake.


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post #870 of 1118 Old 12-10-2012, 05:33 PM
Cf add some stress coat or slime coat Protect to help
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