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Old 11-26-2012, 11:25 AM   #741
 
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That is "planted" and there should be no issues.

I was going to mention it last time, but didn't, so I will now. I never mess with "cycling" using old substrate, filters or filter media in new tanks. I plant it fairly well. I admit that the wood and plants from the existing tank will carry bacteria on their surfaces, so this is probably benefiting somewhat. But I have set up tank after tank with new substrate, new filter media, and in go the fish with never an issue. Just don't overdo it.
CF you can likely from what Byron has said then take out your filter media from that small tank as you have lots of live plants in it now. I say go ahead if you haven't already.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:37 AM   #742
 
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I agree. Poor Goldies.
What really disgusts me and disappoints me is Big Al's, Petsmarts etc and the local Mom/Pop fish stores still to this day promoting sales on the .5 gallon and 1 gallon double Betta tanks with the divider. I expect it from Walmart. I am flabbergasted that Big Al's promotes it. You know I love my Big Al's!!!.... but make a stand and quit selling that stuff. I even stopped by mine and was looking at replacing the Betta that went off to College in his 2.5gallon (max 3 gallon allowed in Dorm) with a new Betta in a 5 gallon... The Big Al's salesman tried to tell me they like the tiny cup sized tanks. Snaps fingers left, right, left.... talk to the hand.
they actually make half gallon tanks that are not even shaped to allow for decent room. the tanks are shaped funky to fit "fun shapes" like batman, or grinch.... tetra makes them. i have started to order most of the things i used to get from petsmart online or trying to get the lfs i now prefer to go threw to order them. they are really pushing them in petco and petsmart. i refuse to shop there right now. well not like i shopped at petco anymore anyways. they are HORRIBLE here. i just want to liberate all the pets in that store every time i even think about them.

so many people are under the misconception that bettas live in these less then half gallon pools of water and LIKE to live like that. that is like saying hey...you were born in a womb about the size of a watermelon...so you must like small spaces and this 4*4 room would suit you nicely..... the bathroom is in the corner there, and there is stove. the petsmart lady here tried to tell me that bettas don't need plants and actually don't like them because they get into way for them. lmfao! pet store employees just make me laugh so hard. thank god she was only filling in for pets that day! wish that you would have to have some sort of real training to work in a pet store. like you should have to study up on the pets the store sells. that way you can give EDUCATED responses to questions not just a poorly thought out educated guess. the ignorance is just baffling sometimes.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:44 AM   #743
 
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That is "planted" and there should be no issues.

I was going to mention it last time, but didn't, so I will now. I never mess with "cycling" using old substrate, filters or filter media in new tanks. I plant it fairly well. I admit that the wood and plants from the existing tank will carry bacteria on their surfaces, so this is probably benefiting somewhat. But I have set up tank after tank with new substrate, new filter media, and in go the fish with never an issue. Just don't overdo it.

thank you. i will have to try it and take out the original filter. should i put the older media in the new just to be safe? i tend to be a worry wort. lol. plus if i kill my shrimp i will literally cry! lol.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:56 AM   #744
 
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We have a pet store in the small town where I work and the lady there is the fish nazi she won't sell you a fish unless she knows where it's going she actually hit me with the papers on her hand when she found out how Much bloodworm I fed my fish on one hand she can be really hard to deal with but on the other hand there's less fish dying out there or leading miserable lives
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:14 PM   #745
 
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thank you. i will have to try it and take out the original filter. should i put the older media in the new just to be safe? i tend to be a worry wort. lol. plus if i kill my shrimp i will literally cry! lol.
From what you've told us, I wouldn't bother. As I said, live plants gobble up ammonia, and provided the fish are not too many for the plants to handle, there will be no cycling issues. Plus, you have had this old filter in there for a time already.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:36 PM   #746
 
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From what you've told us, I wouldn't bother. As I said, live plants gobble up ammonia, and provided the fish are not too many for the plants to handle, there will be no cycling issues. Plus, you have had this old filter in there for a time already.
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:26 PM   #747
 
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my betta paco is in a 10 gallon and i feel guilty sometimes that he shares it with ghost shrimp. lol. but he doesn't seem to mind and neither do they. i always feel bad for those fish who get bad owners who have NO idea about a fish's needs. i hate the "know it all type" who haven't the first clue how to take care of fish. i hope that someone talks some sense into her and she moves her fish to a larger tank asap. lets hope that this is a very bad qt tank......
Well, I didn't make it. She said it jumped out of the tank!
I'm calling it. He committed suicide rather than live in that!

I'm not sure, but I believe that this was the tank she has the half hexagon shaped one. Poor fishies

By the way, I wanted to ask yall a question. After hearing about your ordeal, I decided to quarantine my next fish. It will be 2-3 Juliis (does anyone breed them on here?). So far, I have had no luck catching them at PetSmart, but I', hoping to get them next month. I was going to quarantine them in my old 1.8gal tank for 3 weeks, but then I realized that it has no heater and I can't buy them AND another heater! The fish alone are gonna cost me (number of Juliis)($6.50 + tax) + $12 gas! That's about $34! So, my question is can I quarantine them in a wide mouthed quart jar left to float in my tank as long at I do pwc 2x a day?
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:44 PM   #748
 
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Well, I didn't make it. She said it jumped out of the tank!
I'm calling it. He committed suicide rather than live in that!

I'm not sure, but I believe that this was the tank she has the half hexagon shaped one. Poor fishies

By the way, I wanted to ask yall a question. After hearing about your ordeal, I decided to quarantine my next fish. It will be 2-3 Juliis (does anyone breed them on here?). So far, I have had no luck catching them at PetSmart, but I', hoping to get them next month. I was going to quarantine them in my old 1.8gal tank for 3 weeks, but then I realized that it has no heater and I can't buy them AND another heater! The fish alone are gonna cost me (number of Juliis)($6.50 + tax) + $12 gas! That's about $34! So, my question is can I quarantine them in a wide mouthed quart jar left to float in my tank as long at I do pwc 2x a day?
I wouldn't do this, primarily because of extreme stress. The fish will be closely confined, ammonia will rise rapidly and corys are particularly sensitive to any ammonia above zero. I realize you said twice daily water changes, but this is not going to be close. Plus there is the issue of the fish in that confined space, with other fish and open water beyond the jar which they can see but can't get into. This isn't much different from new fish in the bag floating in the tank, and most of us know how stressed out they become.

When I have had fish in a bare QT of 10g, it highly stressed the fish. But for medicating a health issue, this has to be done. With new fish, I have a 20g semi-planted tank running all the time and they spend 3-4 weeks (sometimes much longer, I think 3 months was the longest) in this. They settle down very fast, they are alone (so no other fish to intimidate them), and they have a couple bits of wood and plants for security.

BTW, in case you don't know, the so-called "Julie" corys are almost never true Corydoras julii, but most often Corydoras trilineatus. This is explained in our respective profiles.

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Old 11-26-2012, 05:26 PM   #749
 
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I would LOVE to be able to get to the profiles, but it doesn't work on moble and clicking on the hilighted name (like in your post) just takes me to a white screen.

How can I tell which kind I have? They sold them to me as Julii Cory Cats, but then again, it is PetSmart.

And if I can't qt them, what should I do!?! Just throw them in the tank and hope for the best? It's what I have been doing and I guess if they look healthy, I can do it, but it worries me.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:33 PM   #750
 
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I would LOVE to be able to get to the profiles, but it doesn't work on moble and clicking on the hilighted name (like in your post) just takes me to a white screen.

How can I tell which kind I have? They sold them to me as Julii Cory Cats, but then again, it is PetSmart.

And if I can't qt them, what should I do!?! Just throw them in the tank and hope for the best? It's what I have been doing and I guess if they look healthy, I can do it, but it worries me.
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If you already have the new fish, introduce them to the tank. Float the bag (open top), add maybe a cup of tank water to the bag, leave for 10-15 minutes; then add another cup and leave for same period. Then net the fish out of the bag and into the tank. Do not tip any of the water into the tank.

Hopefully the corys will settle, and hopefully there was no disease in them or the store tank.

I guess using a mobile device affects the site somehow. I'm attaching a photo below [smaller photo] of the Corydoras trilineatus, which at Petsmart is almost certain to be what they will call "julie." The second photo [larger] is the true C. julii fish.
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