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View Poll Results: If I had a 220 Gallon Aquarium, I would stock....
Cichlids. Duh. 34 30.36%
It would be Saltwater. That's how I roll. 11 9.82%
Bala Sharks 14 12.50%
Tinfoil Barbs 6 5.36%
1 Male Betta 6 5.36%
100 Neon Tetras 23 20.54%
Rainbowfish 13 11.61%
Goldfish 4 3.57%
Other - Please elaborate in a comment in the thread. 22 19.64%
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post #691 of 1118 Old 11-25-2012, 12:36 PM Thread Starter
Tested the water on all the tanks today. Nitrates 10 and under in all of them. Only the Silver Dollar tank was at 10. The rest were 5.

No trace of copper in the 220, so the medicine is all gone. How long should I wait before I add fish to that tank?

Shame they have no Balas and don't know when they are going to get more in. I feel bad that there's only 3 in there. I know they like larger numbers.

Since the copper is gone, I can start using liquid ferts again, so time to add some plants!

My plants in the 220 are looking a little brown. I'm hoping this is not because of inadequate light, but rather because I haven't used liquid ferts in 3 weeks.

So here is how the tank looks now:



I am really liking it.

Added some big Vals on either side of the tank:









Added these two stalky things:









Also added the wispy thing behing the congo:





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post #692 of 1118 Old 11-25-2012, 12:49 PM Thread Starter
Added another plant to the pea puffer tank. How long do I have to leave the established media I added to this tank to avoid a cycle when I set it up? There is still the sponge and bag of substrate and it is officially in the way. My plants are all bunched in the middle, and the sides are wide open because of the media. Pea Puffers like a heavily planted tank, so I want to get that crap out of there and replace it with plants in those areas.

This is the new one:





The one in the middle, between the cichlid stone on the left and the other plant on the right.




Added two new plants to the Amazon Puffer/RTS tank. One like the wispy thing in the 220, and this one:







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post #693 of 1118 Old 11-25-2012, 12:58 PM Thread Starter

Quick video of the new plants. I did a shout out to Jakie for putting me on to the Vals, which I love.
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Even with fewer fish/plants, that is still very lovely. The plants will grow back.

To the question you asked about the length of time before you can add fish: I strongly suggest a QT tank for any future fish. You have seen how decimating it can be to treat even something as simple as ich in a large tank. A QT period of no less than 3 weeks, preferably 4 or even 5 weeks, is sensible. After years of never quarantining, I now do this and I have saved myself some grief already and probably saved fish too.

Once the fish have been in QT for 4-5 weeks and all is well, it will then be safe to add them.

Another strong reason for QT in this case is due to the ich in the main tank. It is still there, I can assure you. And the fish were stressed and thus weakened by the ich and treatment, which means they should be spared even the slightest chance of bringing all this back.

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Just got back home from getting my plants I ordered them with a guy from Kijiji he placed a wholesale order and 29 of us went in on the order we Had to place a minimum of a $25 order most of the plants for $2.50 each There was a list of 100 plants to choose from I ordered 20 plants and got three free

Then I went to big Al's and I bought four of the Dennison barbs they only had four so I couldn't by six but they were on sale for buy one get one for loonie I am Quarantining them them in my 30 gallon right now
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post #696 of 1118 Old 11-25-2012, 04:18 PM

My new small dennison barbs in the 30 gallon they will stay there till they grow a bit so far so good there doesn't seem to be an aggressive one yet fingers crossed
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You poor dear! I know I got upset when I had a ghost shrimp die, so I can't imagine how hard it was to loose so many pretties! I hope you never have to do it again :(

Well, since the survey said to post if you chose other, I have a thing for small fish. I would have a mixed tank with a school of Cory Cats like Juliis, small loaches or shrimp, and something flowy and beautiful like a veiltail betta or something. Maybe even some Neon Tetras. I think it would be more beautiful and alive for me.

Oh! and plants. Lots and lots of edible plants for all my babies to enjoy. Water Sprite, Anubias, and Marimo Balls for sure and something that fry could hide in. Hamster tubes for everyone to swim through. Glass jars and corse sand. Betta hamocks, ping pong balls, and all sorts of fun stuff! *gets lost in a daydream*
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post #698 of 1118 Old 11-25-2012, 05:31 PM Thread Starter
Thanks Byron, I really do need a QT tank. Is a 10 big enough? I have one with a slightly wonky top molding that I need to re silicone.

When I started my pea puffer tank, I cut a hunk of an established Aquaclear 70 sponge to fit the Aquaclear 20 on the puffer tank. I put the rest of the sponge, and a nylon full of substrate, into the tank. How long do these need to remain in the tank? I need to get them out so I can put some plants in their place.

ONE (of three) of my pea puffers ate today. None of them touched the frozen bloodworm I tried. One of them ate a freeze dried one (I understand they're not the best).

I was supposed to pick up live white worms at the LFS today and totally forgot. I also forgot to get a 5 lbs bag of substrate to help with planting the 220.

Byron, do you think the brown spots on my plants are due to inadequate light, or simply because I had copper medicine in the tank and didn't use liquid ferts for a few weeks?

Thanks again!

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Even with fewer fish/plants, that is still very lovely. The plants will grow back.

To the question you asked about the length of time before you can add fish: I strongly suggest a QT tank for any future fish. You have seen how decimating it can be to treat even something as simple as ich in a large tank. A QT period of no less than 3 weeks, preferably 4 or even 5 weeks, is sensible. After years of never quarantining, I now do this and I have saved myself some grief already and probably saved fish too.

Once the fish have been in QT for 4-5 weeks and all is well, it will then be safe to add them.

Another strong reason for QT in this case is due to the ich in the main tank. It is still there, I can assure you. And the fish were stressed and thus weakened by the ich and treatment, which means they should be spared even the slightest chance of bringing all this back.

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post #699 of 1118 Old 11-25-2012, 05:39 PM Thread Starter
You and your fancy QT tank! Haha, just kidding.

WOW, that is a great deal on plants!! I need to find that kind of socialism in action somewhere in the Ottawa area. We certainly don't get that kind of variety or those kind of prices, what an awesome idea.

So are they all planted? Can't wait to see some pics!! That is a lot of plants. Do you know who the guy ordered from? That's way more variety than I ever see at our LFS, and WAY better prices.Good score!

AND Dennison Barbs! Big day! I love those suckers! They're so expensive I could never get a group, though that sort of deal makes it totally doable. How much was the full price? Here the last time they had them they were 19.99, and they had them on sale one weekend for 16.99

The looney sale cuts that in half, amazing! They are such an attractive fish, I am jealous!

Also jealous of your non-icky clowns and your QT setup. You tank is coming along so nicely!

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Just got back home from getting my plants I ordered them with a guy from Kijiji he placed a wholesale order and 29 of us went in on the order we Had to place a minimum of a $25 order most of the plants for $2.50 each There was a list of 100 plants to choose from I ordered 20 plants and got three free

Then I went to big Al's and I bought four of the Dennison barbs they only had four so I couldn't by six but they were on sale for buy one get one for loonie I am Quarantining them them in my 30 gallon right now
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post #700 of 1118 Old 11-25-2012, 05:45 PM Thread Starter
Thanks, I'm over it now but my house we really depressing for a week there. We were very discouraged.

I'm a huge corydoras fan. I recently got some larger catfish and they NEVER make an appearance during the day. The false julii corys in my other tank, on the other hand, are always out and about, they never stop! Not sure what bottom feeder I'm going to go with in the 220. Not anything nocturnal that I will never see. Not sure how I feel about clowns anymore.

I love the idea of the hamster tubes, I have never seen that done before. Do you have anything like that set up now? I'll have to search you tube and see if there are any videos of fish swimming through them.

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You poor dear! I know I got upset when I had a ghost shrimp die, so I can't imagine how hard it was to loose so many pretties! I hope you never have to do it again :(

Well, since the survey said to post if you chose other, I have a thing for small fish. I would have a mixed tank with a school of Cory Cats like Juliis, small loaches or shrimp, and something flowy and beautiful like a veiltail betta or something. Maybe even some Neon Tetras. I think it would be more beautiful and alive for me.

Oh! and plants. Lots and lots of edible plants for all my babies to enjoy. Water Sprite, Anubias, and Marimo Balls for sure and something that fry could hide in. Hamster tubes for everyone to swim through. Glass jars and corse sand. Betta hamocks, ping pong balls, and all sorts of fun stuff! *gets lost in a daydream*
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