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View Poll Results: If I had a 220 Gallon Aquarium, I would stock....
Cichlids. Duh. 34 30.36%
It would be Saltwater. That's how I roll. 11 9.82%
Bala Sharks 14 12.50%
Tinfoil Barbs 6 5.36%
1 Male Betta 6 5.36%
100 Neon Tetras 23 20.54%
Rainbowfish 13 11.61%
Goldfish 4 3.57%
Other - Please elaborate in a comment in the thread. 22 19.64%
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post #551 of 1118 Old 11-15-2012, 11:15 AM
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post #552 of 1118 Old 11-15-2012, 11:34 AM
Pets and ponds are cheaper then big ALS for sure I buy all my supplies there just placed a $227.00 order there on Friday buy all my filter media there too got it on Tuesday with free shipping buy stuff on eBay too though

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post #553 of 1118 Old 11-15-2012, 12:11 PM Thread Starter
Yeah, Pets and Ponds is great, especially if you need $200 worth of stuff, as then shipping is free.

Master Kits aren't expensive (though EBay and Amazon typically charge shipping to Canada), but the girl at our store is better at interpreting the colors than I am. The differences can be subtle and they all look the same to me.

The last couple of times was for copper, which of course the master kit doesn't cover.

But we will pick one up, we keep saying it would be nice to have one. With the exception of that one week when the nitrates went up in the Silver Dollar tank, my tanks usually vary between 5 and 15 ppm Nitrate with no ammonia or nitrites.

It would have been really nice to have had the kit when the 220 was cycling.

Hopefully my fish are done dying for now, and the medicine will do its job.

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post #554 of 1118 Old 11-15-2012, 12:16 PM
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Good, good no fishy deaths today. Keep your fingers crossed, you may well have turned a corner. Byron had about the best advice yet. The meds may well have been an insult.
The reason for raising the temp is (I think if I remember) is that higher temps speeds the ich cycle up so the meds can kill them quicker at whatever particular stage they are designed to be lethal.
If there are no more deaths, I would not add any more fish for quite a while, and then, only do a few fish at a time. This gives the biosphere in there a chance to adjust.
Myself, when I start a new tank, the only fish I add at the first are platys or swordtails. They are commonly available, hearty fish (usually). Adding fish, recommended to only do a few at a time, 2, 3, maybe 4 depending on the size of the tank.
Please keep us posted on this. I certainly hope no more die.

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post #555 of 1118 Old 11-15-2012, 12:39 PM
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Oh CF... I learned something at Big Al's this week. I asked if they ever get in the Leopard Bush fish in your pic... Yes occasionally, but he did say they have a hinged jaw so when he gets bigger he is quite capable of eating the Adult Congo Tetras. Did you know that? Of course the Congos are more "fins" than the Silver Dollars he is with right now right?
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post #556 of 1118 Old 11-15-2012, 01:12 PM Thread Starter
The Bush Fish does have a cool mouth/eating method. It was one of the things that I liked about it. However they have a full grown one at my Big Al's and there is no way he could eat a full size Congo.
This is from the onsite profile:

"this is a predatory species and it can swallow fish up to 1/3 of its own size". The Congos are more like 2/3 when they are full grown.

This is from another profile from a site I trust, they actually mention Congos as suitable tankmates:

"Itís quite slow growing though, and it can take several years to reach anything like this size. 6″ (15cm) is considered a good size for captive fish.

Not particularly aggressive but is predatory and will eat small fish. Ideal tankmates include other species from the same region. Shoals of congo tetras, Phenacogrammus interruptus, yellowtail congo tetras Alestopetersius caudalis and Barbus species, along with catfish such as Synodontis flavitaeniatus or schoutedini make good tankmates. You could also try it with other oddballs, such as the smaller species of Polypterus or the African butterfly fish, Pantodon buchholzi. Donít keep it with anything too large or aggressive as it has a rather shy, retiring character."

Congos are typically 3.5" I think one of mine might be slightly larger than that already. Of course, it's not in a tank with Congos, and if it was in that tank, the Black Skirts would be in trouble long before the Congos.

However the Serpae Tetras are with him, and will have to be moved if they are still in that tank in a couple of years when the leopard fish has grown. They'll be food for sure once he's big enough. The bleeding hearts, if they grow faster than the bush fish, might be ok. If not they'll have to be moved too.

Right now the leopard bush is so small his mouth doesn't open enough to eat a neon. More like a blood worm.

Still no dead fish today, no additional spots and none of the fish seemed distressed.

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post #557 of 1118 Old 11-15-2012, 01:34 PM
You can also buy Cooper API liquid tests along with the API test kit.They just are sold separately.
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Awesome on the 220. Good to know on the Leopard. I guess the lesson as usual is....
Don't listen to LFS staff. hahaha.
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post #559 of 1118 Old 11-15-2012, 01:46 PM Thread Starter
Their mouths do open surprisingly wide. A mature one could gobble up a full grown serpae tetra in one gulp. There are some cool youtube videos of them feeding.

They still have some of the ones from when I bought mine, they're surprisingly selling very slowly. I think they still have the full grown one too, and they had him when I bought my little one.

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post #560 of 1118 Old 11-15-2012, 03:18 PM
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So glad to hear there were no new spots or deaths today! Maybe things have turned around! :)


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