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View Poll Results: If I had a 220 Gallon Aquarium, I would stock....
Cichlids. Duh. 34 30.36%
It would be Saltwater. That's how I roll. 11 9.82%
Bala Sharks 14 12.50%
Tinfoil Barbs 6 5.36%
1 Male Betta 6 5.36%
100 Neon Tetras 23 20.54%
Rainbowfish 13 11.61%
Goldfish 4 3.57%
Other - Please elaborate in a comment in the thread. 22 19.64%
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post #411 of 1118 Old 11-07-2012, 02:44 PM
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woohoo!! MR Mary Poppins to you!!

Great videos. I wonder if the Black Skirt Tetras will end up remaining in the tank over time growing only to 2 1/4 inches and possibly need to be moved. The Loaches and Balas will get huge as you know... likely the Congo's will then end up the smallest in the tank. Interesting to see where this will go over time. Looking forward to seeing how this all looks a month from now!! Let alone 6 months. Good job!!
I love the "follow the leader" game they play.
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post #412 of 1118 Old 11-07-2012, 02:52 PM Thread Starter
The Skirts may get relocated before that, if they pick on the loaches again. I'd like to see the clowns grow up to get a little retaliation.

I have no idea how fast Balas grow. I know the loach growth slows like crazy after 5 inches or so. I figure the balas have small mouths and the clowns grow slow so if the Skirts behave themselves they should be able to stay in the tank for a good length of time.

I am loving the look of this fish mix!

Edit: Yeah, Charlie isn't big on Genders specifics.

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post #413 of 1118 Old 11-07-2012, 03:19 PM
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Not buying any more fish for awhile!!
Ya ... sure!!!

Keep an eye on that Tetra/Loach issue!!
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post #414 of 1118 Old 11-08-2012, 09:28 AM Thread Starter
ICK in the 220!!

Yeah, yeah, I know, Quarantine Tank. I was just talking to my wife about one yesterday, and asking about it in chat. Probably jinxed myself.

The store called this morning because a couple of clown loaches in their tank have started showing spots. Sure enough, ours have ick too.

I only had Ick once before, some Silver Dollars I got from Petsmart. This is the first time I got them from Big Al's. At least they called.

So apparently I can't use salts because of the plants, so it's raise the temperature and treat 'em. Apparently he has something that loaches can withstand, but it turns the water blue. I don't care about blue water as long as my fish are ok. Especially those HUGE Congos. They'd be a pain to replace. Probably impossible around here.

Now, the only question is, will he charge me for the medicine or not? Petsmart gave it to me for free.

Earlier this week, as I mentioned in chat, the switch went in my lightstrip. When we bought it, we got the great deal because it was a display model. The switch was shot, stuck in the "on" position. So we used that until they brought us in a new one. Now the new one is shot! I've heard those switches go, but that fast? So they're bringing me in another one. In the meantime, the tank is on a timer now, and I'll use the timer with the new one too, so hopefully the new one lasts forever.

What a week! We were really looking forward to NOT driving to Kanata today. We've been there every day for a week. Blech. And not nearly as fun going for medicine as it is for fish.

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post #415 of 1118 Old 11-08-2012, 10:16 AM
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Oh Bummer!!!!
That is awesome that they called you too! It is quite likely considering they are taking responsibility for you having the ich to give you the meds free. Let's hope.
I remember having ich a couple of times and I do remember the blue water.
Keeping my fingers crossed that all come thru this.
Lesson learned on the QT tank.
My QT is down and empty right now... the leaking tank. I have the new silicone but need to spend time cutting out the old stuff.
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post #416 of 1118 Old 11-08-2012, 10:20 AM Thread Starter
I have a 10 gallon I could use, but it has no lights. It had a hood, but it's used and it looks like the lights almost caught it on fire once. I could quarantine fish in it, I suppose, but they will be in the dark.

We seem to be catching it early so hopefully everyone survives. Who knows, maybe blue water will be cool for a little while. Makes me want to experiment with other colors. JUST KIDDING!

Charlie turned the light on in Mary Poppins tank this morning by himself!

I'm gonna teach him how to feed her later. I didn't feed him yesterday because he looked pretty stressed when he got here, hiding in a corner all day.

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post #417 of 1118 Old 11-08-2012, 10:31 AM
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Would be good to teach him to put the food into a tiny little dish first and if it's pellets you can practice counting. Then feed from dish to tank, more counting. That way he never pours the container into the tank. lol.
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post #418 of 1118 Old 11-08-2012, 10:33 AM Thread Starter
Oh, I will always be giving him the exact amount I want in the tank, or he'll probably do it by the handful!

The Betta is being a little braver today. Which is good.

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post #419 of 1118 Old 11-08-2012, 11:20 AM
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CF, on the ich. Clown loach are notorious for ich. Some fish are, hatchetfish is another that comes to mind. Treatment is important with such fish because the ich is tough and can kill them.

Raise the temp to 85F. I do this partly via a major water change (half the tank) increasing the temp a few degrees with the refill, then adjust the heater for the rest. Given the severity with these fish, I would then add CopperSafe, at the dose on the label. A small bottle will suffice, you only use it once. It is effective for 30 days, so just leave the tank (= no further water changes), feed sparingly but normally, no other changes. After 10 days, turn the heater down to normal and let the tank naturally cool down. After another 4-5 days, do a 50% water change. Everything is normal from there on.

This is the safest method I know, and with my sensitive wild caught fish (including hatchetfish) it has always worked. You can also handle ich with just a rise in temp to 90F, but only if all fish can manage, and some of yours (Congo for one) will have considerable difficult at 90F. The 85F for a week should pose no problem, I have never had "cooler" fish die from this.

A QT is wise these days. For over 12 years I never bothered, and never had issues, except ich maybe once or twice. No days, it seems every fish I bring home has something, and I now have a 20g QT tank with spare plants running that I use as QT. I have had minor ich with just about every new fish these days. But also had things far worse, protozoans. Fish stock seems to be deteriorating, so a QT for 4 weeks is wise.


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The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]

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post #420 of 1118 Old 11-08-2012, 01:04 PM
Jodie came in the chat room and started talking about the loaches but not all her messages came through so i came to see what was up. Hopefully you kick its butt fast!

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