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post #11 of 40 Old 10-10-2012, 11:40 PM Thread Starter
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I would suggest no plastic plants, they will look artificial, but leaving it authentic with just the wood. This is what most of the streams are like in the Amazon. However, I would have floating plants, lots of them. You could cover the surface with Water Sprite, Amazon Frogbit, Brazilian Pennywort. All authentic, and these would handle the water quality issues that live plants do, while keeping the lower aquarium free of plants and authentic. Almost all Amazonian forest fish occur in such habitats. Vegetation is usually confined to overhanging or floating marginal, which is very important. This also helps to further shade the light.

I would caution on the fish combination though. Platinum angels are said to have beeen derived from the gold phenotype, which of course was from the original wild Pterophyllum scalare. They attain 6 inches and will naturally consider linear characins as food. The cardinals and rummys might not fare too well. The disk-shaped characins are better choices.

I do like the aquascape with the wood "branches," very true to Amazonia.

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thanks byron, one of the few people here who helped me a lot on this project! thank you sir!

ok, will think about this, cause i dont want any real plant on my system.. i want my water surface to be as clean as possible.. ive seen some plastic plants that are made of silk? i dont know if you've seen them, but you cant tell the difference between palstic and the real ones! they are looking so real.. will read more about this. thanks!

about the platinum angelfish, what other fish other than the discus woiuld you recommend? ive seen tanks with this community that live well, that's why im giving it a shot, if it fails i can easily transfer them to my other tank and choose other fishes :)
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Love it! I especially like the lighting in the center pic. Can I ask why you have a wavemaker? The fish in your list are calm water fish.

I just picked up an armload of branchy driftwood at an auction. I'm excited now to add it to my angel tank for a similar look to yours.
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the wave maker helps me a lot, it is added for the driftwoods.. in time it will have molds(not sure if you call them molds, lol) in them that you have to remove.. keeping a minimal current will avoid that from happening, and plus its good for their exercise, lol! there's some dead spot on the tank, they can easily rest there.. and lastly, wavemaker can place the leftover foods on specific sides of the tank, this way i can easily spot clean any leftover food :)

nice!! please post it as soon as your done, i love to see how it will turn out :)
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post #13 of 40 Old 10-11-2012, 01:30 PM
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I'm not grasping the issue with plants and the surface. I can assure you, aside from water changes nothing performs more benefit in any fish tank than live plants, and having them on the surface achieves this fastest as well as providing the necessary shade these fish expect.

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I'm not grasping the issue with plants and the surface. I can assure you, aside from water changes nothing performs more benefit in any fish tank than live plants, and having them on the surface achieves this fastest as well as providing the necessary shade these fish expect.
what kind of free floating plants can i put? :)
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what kind of free floating plants can i put? :)
I mentioned these previously, but to repeat, Amazon Frogbit, Brazilian Pennywort and Water Sprite.

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I mentioned these previously, but to repeat, Amazon Frogbit, Brazilian Pennywort and Water Sprite.
will get hose soon, thanks! :)
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I mentioned these previously, but to repeat, Amazon Frogbit, Brazilian Pennywort and Water Sprite.
hey byron! how about these " red line torpedo barb " / " deniso barb " , can they fit well in my tank? they grow 6inches and they are not at all aggressive, il get maybe 4-6pcs :) since discus and angelfish are out of the options, will these work? :)
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hey byron! how about these " red line torpedo barb " / " deniso barb " , can they fit well in my tank? they grow 6inches and they are not at all aggressive, il get maybe 4-6pcs :) since discus and angelfish are out of the options, will these work? :)
A beautiful fish, but not compatible on a couple of scores, if you retain the earlier fish mentioned (rummys, cardinals). The Denisons Barb requires more water flow that these tetra would appreciate, and cooler temperatures. And they may eat smaller fish, and to a 6-inch barb a 1 inch tetra is a small fish. Check our profile.

Just to throw out one option, this is a tank suited to the medium gourami that are too large for small tanks. As long as you get the floating plants, especially Water Sprite, gourami would be fine. Now, you have to be careful on species; the Blue Gourami will eat linear tetra, I watched 2 of them corner and devour a neon in a store tank once, then they stalked another tetra. The Pearl Gourami would be lovely. Just one suggestion.

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A beautiful fish, but not compatible on a couple of scores, if you retain the earlier fish mentioned (rummys, cardinals). The Denisons Barb requires more water flow that these tetra would appreciate, and cooler temperatures. And they may eat smaller fish, and to a 6-inch barb a 1 inch tetra is a small fish. Check our profile.

Just to throw out one option, this is a tank suited to the medium gourami that are too large for small tanks. As long as you get the floating plants, especially Water Sprite, gourami would be fine. Now, you have to be careful on species; the Blue Gourami will eat linear tetra, I watched 2 of them corner and devour a neon in a store tank once, then they stalked another tetra. The Pearl Gourami would be lovely. Just one suggestion.

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oh bummer :( i thought they can be a great addition to my tetras.. i saw the profile, but it is written that they are peaceful fishes.. ans schools as well.. my rummies and penguins love the wavemaker that i have..

so they are my only option? the pearl gourami? and no other gourami? can you suggest more fish and hopefully they are available here in our LFS..

how about the betta fish? the halfmoon betta looks very nice and ive read posts like betta living in a community tank, what's your stand on this sir byron? :)

about the plants sir byron, can duckweed work? :) that's the most common in our country.. i can give them a try.. we also are very local of talisay leaf( i think its the same as the indian almond leaves.. can i toss a lot of them to make a better water quality for my tank?
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sir byron, what if i get the denison barb at an early change, maybe 1.5 inchers? by the time they grow about 4-5inches, my cardinals, rummies and penguins will be around 1.5-2inches :) wont this work? :) i kinds love the way they grow big and school :D

blue gourami is highly available in our LFS.. but the peral gourami isnt..
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