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post #31 of 35 Old 10-27-2011, 05:14 PM
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Some good news...I think.

I only have the one Zebra Danio left along with lots of plants, a shrimp and several small, small snails but I'm finaly seeing my Ammonia dropping. My Nitrites are coming up as are my Nitrates.

Saturday:
Ammonia +1.5
Nitrites 0
Nitrates 0

Thursday (yesterday):
Ammonia -1.5
Nitrites .125
Nitrates 0

Friday (today):
Ammonia +0.5
Nitrites +.25
Nitrates -2.5

Question, because I only have one little fish in a 36 gallon tank, is now the time to add one or two more Zebra Danios?

I'm working on getting 2 of those refillable 5 gallon drinking water bottles and filling with either RO or distilled water for changes to knock down the hardness. That won't happen untill the weekend but that's only 24-36 hours out.
Zebra Danios are hearty and can typically withstand the cycling process, though it's not great for them etc. But you are likely almost there, as you are seeing nitrates. They prefer to be in groups of at least 5 or 6, so if you like the fish, adding them now probably won't be a terrible thing. Some may disagree, as nitrites are probably the most toxic, but I cycled my tank with Danios, (never lost one) though I'd never do it again, and after doing fishless cycling, that is the way to go (a bit late for you however)

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post #32 of 35 Old 10-27-2011, 06:08 PM
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First thing, as long as ammonia and nitrite are anything above zero, a 50% water change should be carried out, daily if needed. If you are using Prime or Ultimate as your conditioner (both handle ammonia and nitrite) you can do alternate day changes if after the second day ammonia or nitrite is above zero. Anything less is extremely stressful on any fish in the tank.

I would not add fish until the tank is cycled for what is now in it. Live plants would solve all this.

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First thing, as long as ammonia and nitrite are anything above zero, a 50% water change should be carried out, daily if needed. If you are using Prime or Ultimate as your conditioner (both handle ammonia and nitrite) you can do alternate day changes if after the second day ammonia or nitrite is above zero. Anything less is extremely stressful on any fish in the tank.

I would not add fish until the tank is cycled for what is now in it. Live plants would solve all this.
Lots of live plants, all have been in there from day one except the Sword and the Spiralis which were added about two weeks ago.

Plants:
(1) Amazon Sword
( 6 bunches) Brazilian Pennywort (planted)
(1) Pigmy Chain Sword
(1) Anubias Nana Petite
(3) Anubias Barteri Var. Nana
(3) Moss Balls
(6) Vallisneria Spiralis

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Lots of live plants, all have been in there from day one except the Sword and the Spiralis which were added about two weeks ago.

Plants:
(1) Amazon Sword
( 6 bunches) Brazilian Pennywort (planted)
(1) Pigmy Chain Sword
(1) Anubias Nana Petite
(3) Anubias Barteri Var. Nana
(3) Moss Balls
(6) Vallisneria Spiralis

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In that case, ammonia and nitrite should always be zero. Those plants would grab any ammonia from so few fish. Have you tested the source water (presumably tap) for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate?

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post #35 of 35 Old 10-29-2011, 10:23 AM Thread Starter
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for bottled water, check if any of your grocery stores have refill drinking water. that is what i use and it is only 29 cents a gallon. you can buy 5 gal water jugs and refill them. it ends up being pretty cheap.
Finally made it to the store and bought some refillable water jugs. They not only had the 5 gallon but 3 gallon as well. Since I have to lug this up a lot of stairs, I bought a couple of the three gallon size rather than one 5 gallon. 6 gallons of the distilled water mixed 50/50 with my tap water should knock the hardness down quite a bit, will give me a 33% water change. Not quite the 50% desired change for new/cycling tanks but should suffice for routine water changes after the cycle is complete.

Once I get home from work here, I'll test the bottled water to see if I got what I think I got.
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