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post #21 of 36 Old 01-28-2014, 05:23 AM
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Crzy, you are absolutely correct in your assessment of how bottled bacteria works. They all contain nitrosomonas and nitrospira (or nitrobacter for SW). Those are the very bacteria that perform the nitrogen cycle.

You are also right to be concerned about even smal amounts of ammonia. But, as long as you're using Prime (1-drop/gal daily and 2-drops/gal with water changes), the ammonia is locked up in a harmless form and will not detrimentally effect your livestock. It will go away as the tank matures.

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post #22 of 36 Old 01-28-2014, 11:03 AM Thread Starter
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I might add to all of this that this might be the test kits fault? There was a poll taken that showed 40% of people who tested with API ammonia had a greenish tint every time they tested but knew there was no ammonia. They get a "not completely green but not completely yellow."
I think this just might be my problem. I'll head over to my LFS just to check.
One quick question though. My fish store tests with swabs? Like the cotton ball ear wax removers. Anyone know what kind of testing method they're using?
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post #23 of 36 Old 01-28-2014, 12:13 PM
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No. But it would be interesting to learn about that. Will you ask and report back here? That would be very informative, I think.
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No. But it would be interesting to learn about that. Will you ask and report back here? That would be very informative, I think.
Alright then, I'll report back in a few days or so. :) It'll be hard to know if their methods are trustworthy without knowing how they're doing things but who knows?
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post #25 of 36 Old 01-28-2014, 12:53 PM
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I never seemed to get the pale yellow that the API test kit chart has. Yet I never got .25 color either. So I tested my tap water and that tested (color) just the same as my tank water. So, either both have traces of ammonia or the color on the chart is slightly paler than it could be. In either case I feel like with my nitrate readings along with seeing no changes in the color of my ammonia tests after checking daily for a period of time that the ammonia is not a problem. Fish seem just fine.
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post #26 of 36 Old 01-29-2014, 02:51 PM Thread Starter
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My yellow actually looks more like the yellows on the nitrate and pH chart.
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post #27 of 36 Old 01-29-2014, 05:15 PM
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But then what is this supposed to be? If I haven't cycled, there should be no bacteria and my fish should make the ammonia rise.
But if I have cycled then there should be no ammonia..
That's the other reason I think it might be ammonium.
Could be
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post #28 of 36 Old 01-30-2014, 05:52 AM
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Please re-read post #13.
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post #29 of 36 Old 02-01-2014, 05:54 PM Thread Starter
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Alright! So I went to the store today to get my water tested, and he did not use a Q-tip.. Instead he used test strips (which I wasn't to happy about) and told me everything was fine with my water and that my pH was just a little high. He was very nice and asked me what type of fish I had to make sure they were okay in my water, but yeah. Disappointing how they use strips. But hey, it's free. What do you expect.
I have no idea now what the other employee did with the other water testing.. I'm very sure he did stick a Q-tip in the guys bag of water. maybe he just didn't want to get the tips of his fingers wet from dipping the strips in :P
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post #30 of 36 Old 02-02-2014, 04:58 AM
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I, too, was dismayed and disappointed when the Petco associate pulled out strips to test my water. I wanted to see if their testing technique was the same as mine, and if they'd get the same reading.
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