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My new tank and situation
Old 07-07-2007, 10:18 PM   #1
 
My new tank and situation

I bought a 46 gallon bow front tank on the 4th of July. I have an emperor 400 filter with dual biowheels. It is a freshwater community tank and I just bought several livebearers. I have like 7 fake plants to provide hiding places and a little hidey hole until I purchase a center piece.

Ph is 7.0 and the water has aged for 3 days and has been treated with aquarium salt, bacteria enhancer, dechlorinator, and stress coat. I dont have an air pump yet, simply because my filter is so powerful that it seems to create sufficient air bubbles.

Tonight, I put substrate and the fake plants I mentioned and went and bought some starter fish. I bought three guppies, three lyretail mollies, and a albino cory catfish.

I have to confess, and I am afraid you'll think I am a fish endangerer, I turned the bag over to let the fish out (after letting them acclimate properly of course) and my female guppy--who is black--blended in with the black text on the bag and was let in the bag for maybe thirty seconds or less. As soon as I realized my fish count was one short. I was horrified and she was quickly placed in the tank and I have been watching her like a hawk. I feel just awful. One of her eyes seems bigger than the other. I didn't notice at the pet store because I had just asked the clerk to pick a female for me (the tank looked healthy when I had checked before deciding on a female guppy).

I have had bettas and know they can get popeye. Guppies can too, right? Is it one eye or both? I am not sure and am afraid to move her to a quarantine tank after her already traumatic experience. Is pop eye contagious? I don't want to endanger my other fish.

Thanks everyone for reading. I am learning so much!
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:48 PM   #2
 
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I guess this is kind of all unknown... to be honest, unless her eye was injured or damaged, I can't imagine pop eye setting in in under a minute - it seems more likely she had it before. If she is already in there, it's possible it could transfer -but I think this type of disease tends to be one that healthy fish can fend off themselves, hopefully the acclimation process wouldn't stress them all out to the point they might be susceptible. (Life at the store probably isn't that peacy either. :/)

I also don't think being out of the water for 30 seconds is a death blow - it's not fun no doubt, but there have been plenty of cases where fish were found minutes later, put back in the tank, and not the worse for wear. (Happened to 2 of my gouramis who jumped out of a container and stuck to the rug - they did it completely silently too! We had our backs turned, and one was even sticking to the carpet, poor thing. Some extra Stress Coat, and you would have never known they were out of the water for... well I don't really know how long, but longer than 30 seconds. It's true guppies don't breathe the oxygen from air, but I still think a brief stint like yours out of the water was probably not a death blow. I hope it wasn't!)

Be sure to keep tabs on your ammonia and NitrItes in your brand new tank, to keep from experiencing New Tank Syndrome.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:58 PM   #3
 
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I guess this is kind of all unknown... to be honest, unless her eye was injured or damaged, I can't imagine pop eye setting in in under a minute - it seems more likely she had it before. If she is already in there, it's possible it could transfer -but I think this type of disease tends to be one that healthy fish can fend off themselves, hopefully the acclimation process wouldn't stress them all out to the point they might be susceptible. (Life at the store probably isn't that peacy either. :/)
I would agree with this.

As a side note on your comment regarding air bubbles, air bubbles do nothing to promote oxygen exchange. Oxygen change is only done at the surface. If you have a lot of bubbles in the tank, there might be a leak in your filtration tubes which will damage your filter over time, or your filter is set up above the water line. You might want to check on this.
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:04 AM   #4
 
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As a side note on your comment regarding air bubbles, air bubbles do nothing to promote oxygen exchange. Oxygen change is only done at the surface. If you have a lot of bubbles in the tank, there might be a leak in your filtration tubes which will damage your filter over time, or your filter is set up above the water line. You might want to check on this.
If that were true then the airpump business would go bankrupt, lol. Oxygen exchange does happen at the surface but will also happen anytime oxygen is forced under water via a pump or strong filter. Aeration is not just for looks. The more surface area of the bubbles exposed to water and the longer the bubbles travel through water, the more oxygen will saturate into the tank.
Now if you are talking about bubbles created by your emporer 400 waterfalling into the tank then that is causing some aeration and will occur if the water level is lower than the output slide of the filter. A lot of aeration does occur at the surface of the tank so disturbing surface water will also help. If you are talking about bubbles forming on the sides of the tank, on ornaments and even on fish then you have a case in which there is too much saturated gases in the tank and you probably should have let it sit out longer before putting fish in. 3 days is pretty good though for a 46 gallon.
About the guppy, I agree that the eye was either damaged or already like that, popeye does not develop that quickly. Keep a close eye on it and watch for behavioral changes. If it really concerns you, most stores have a warranty on the fish and i'm sure you could exchange it.
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:14 AM   #5
 
The bubbles are very VERY tiny and flow all throughout the tank. The current in the tank is very strong also. The filter itself can handle up to 80 gallons as I am sure many of you are aware.

Just to help give you a visual, when I first started watching my tank with the filter running, it looked like there was a lot of dust particles floating around at all levels of the tank. I was afraid I hadn't rinsed the gravel enough or something. It was only when I got really close that I realized they were air bubbles...
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:16 AM   #6
 
Oh, and for all of you wondering. My guppy didn't make it. The damage was just too much I guess. But I feel better knowing that it wasn't anything I did.

The place I bought her from has an exchange/refund policy. I replaced and bought an additional two females so one girl wouldn't be picked on all the time!
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