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Old 12-07-2012, 09:59 PM   #31
 
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OK, so after lots of 40-70% water changes and bit of graft, my nitrite levels seem to have balanced out, at zero... last 48 hours highest iv had is <0.01 :)

So, hopefully this will remain. I will wait for it to be 0 for at least 7-10 days so that i know my tank is stable, else rinse and repeat.

However, this has now enabled me to think about what i may possibly add next....

Right now my preference is to add 2 dwarf neon gouramis next,in around 2 weeks, followed my 3 boesemani rainbows maybe a month or so after, followed (maybe) finally by a small pleco (suggestions?!?!) Ive also thought about adding to the 6 rosy tetras at some point, or if my bioload could handle it (help here please!!!) a second school of 6ish possibly. Not sure if my tank could handle that though...

Currently running Aqua One Aquis 750 Series II Canister filter and plenty of live plants- with more to come as my filters. Have thought about upgrading this though, then using this filter to run an approx 120 ltr quarantine tank. (After which to convert to cichlid tank...but thats another matter...)

Just hoping for some suggestions regarding my original 'line-up' and any suggestions etc welcome...
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:12 AM   #32
 
If you like longer term planning, and have a high degree of confidence in your future tank, the clown loach is a fun specimen. Mine has proven quite hardy, eats very well, and is very entertaining to watch. Probably my favorite fish right now if I was forced to rank order them. It's a race against time with the room renovations, purchasing and setting up the new bigger tank (75 g), against his growth rate.
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:08 AM   #33
 
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Right now my preference is to add 2 dwarf neon gouramis next,in around 2 weeks, followed my 3 boesemani rainbows maybe a month or so after, followed (maybe) finally by a small pleco (suggestions?!?!) Ive also thought about adding to the 6 rosy tetras at some point, or if my bioload could handle it (help here please!!!) a second school of 6ish possibly. Not sure if my tank could handle that though...
The Boeseman Rainbowfish is a shoaling fish, and in the profile it gives six as absolute minimum, though more are better. It also mentions a 4-foot tank so I assume we are now considering the 4-foot tank, not the original in this thread; area as in the surface area of the substrate is more important than depth of water for active fish.

I wouldn't add gourami to this mix though. As also noted in the profile, rainbows are active fish and should not be combined with sedate or quiet fish, like the gourami.

Which brings me to the Rosy Tetra, which are also on the quiet side. But these would probably manage better with the rainbow, though it is not a combination I personally would choose because of the activity issue, but also the water parameters. And these are not mentioned. Boeseman rainbows do not do well in soft water, whiile the Rosys are the opposite. Aside from this, I would increase the group; six as the minimum simply means that, minimum, with more always being better. I have had this species in groups close to 15 and they have been very happy. But quiet, remaining in a group under plants (they do not like overhead light) and out of the filter flow (also don't like currents).

A small pleco species (some grow around 4-5 inches, others get enormous so watch out) would be OK with any of this, so far.

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Old 12-11-2012, 11:14 AM   #34
 
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Sorry, busy few days with work....

Thanks all, your continued advice is great!

Ok, so I'm just going to wait till I get the 4ft tank before adding the boesmani's. That's a cert.
One question I did have though Byron, both a friend if mine And the LFS have a boese and gourami tank, which both seem very happy etc together, so is it these got lucky? Adding at a young age etc?

Just wondering as just got myself a 60 ltr ready to go quarantine tank and was unsurewhether to get the gouramis or not. I'm just getting mixed info.....


And still considering plecs to.... so much choice! Someone suggested the golden nugget to me, anyone have any experience with it? Average size etc, I read a maximum of 6 inches.....
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:34 PM   #35
 
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One question I did have though Byron, both a friend if mine And the LFS have a boese and gourami tank, which both seem very happy etc together, so is it these got lucky? Adding at a young age etc?

Just wondering as just got myself a 60 ltr ready to go quarantine tank and was unsurewhether to get the gouramis or not. I'm just getting mixed info.....
You will always encounter differing opinions on combining certain species, that is to be expected. And usually there are no rules "cut in stone." There are possible and sometimes probable issues, and the wise aquarist follows those to avoid risk to the fish. Individual fish within a species can behave differently for reasons science does not fully understand; but after all, so do people.

Gourami are slow, sedate fish. They should never be forced to live in an environment with active fish. And rainbows (the larger species) are active swimmers. This is why barbs and danios do not go well with gourami and angelfish, but rasbora and the more sedate characins generally do.

Whenever I hear that the fish in a tank are "doing fine" I really have to ask how one knows this. There are obvious things that can clue us in of course, but not always. An obvious example. Most members here will tell you that a 20g tank is not sufficient space for an Oscar, life-long. But there will be some who will say they have this and the fish is fine. The fish is eating, and it lives many years. It "looks" fine. But we know it is not fine.

Once you confine a fish to an enclosed volume of water, the fish is at your mercy. They deserve the best, not experiments. I was reading an article last week in which the author commented that we are unwise to think we can change a fish that has evolved through natural selection over thousands of years, just by putting it in a tank.

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Old 12-11-2012, 02:08 PM   #36
 
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You will always encounter differing opinions on combining certain species, that is to be expected. And usually there are no rules "cut in stone." There are possible and sometimes probable issues, and the wise aquarist follows those to avoid risk to the fish. Individual fish within a species can behave differently for reasons science does not fully understand; but after all, so do people.

Gourami are slow, sedate fish. They should never be forced to live in an environment with active fish. And rainbows (the larger species) are active swimmers. This is why barbs and danios do not go well with gourami and angelfish, but rasbora and the more sedate characins generally do.

Whenever I hear that the fish in a tank are "doing fine" I really have to ask how one knows this. There are obvious things that can clue us in of course, but not always. An obvious example. Most members here will tell you that a 20g tank is not sufficient space for an Oscar, life-long. But there will be some who will say they have this and the fish is fine. The fish is eating, and it lives many years. It "looks" fine. But we know it is not fine.

Once you confine a fish to an enclosed volume of water, the fish is at your mercy. They deserve the best, not experiments. I was reading an article last week in which the author commented that we are unwise to think we can change a fish that has evolved through natural selection over thousands of years, just by putting it in a tank.

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That whole post was well worth quoting and definitely the best I've read and a great philosophy to follow as a whole.

I think I will get both the gouramis And the boesemanis then....BUT the gouramis now for the shorter tank and I will wait for the 4ft'r and the boesemanis can go in there withother fish more suited to them!

Maybe I'll try and go with a few different gouramis together then. Maybe add in other more sedate species with them. I want happy, healthy fish after all.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:16 PM   #37
 
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Maybe I'll try and go with a few different gouramis together then. Maybe add in other more sedate species with them. I want happy, healthy fish after all.
This takes some careful thought too, combining gourami species. The smaller species can usually be combined successfully, but as soon as you move up into the medium to larger species, such as the dwarf, pearl, blue, etc., this is very risky. Males are territorial and more than one member has tried this only to have dead fish a cojuple months later when the gourami decide to "be themselves."
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:38 PM   #38
 
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Hmmm..... darn these fish are complicated. Good thing I love to just sit there and while away hours watching them

Well I was thinking of going with a pair of dwarf neons tbh, so is there others suited to these, or am I better off leaving them as the only gouramis in the tank?
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:48 PM   #39
 
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I had a moonlight gourami get skiinny in my Rainbowfish tank and I am sure it was because the Rainbowfish were beating him to the food.

That 6 minimum, can that be including other Rainbowfish? I have 6 Irian Red, 3 Blue and 3 Bosemani and they all seem to school together. No signs of racism or segregation amongst them.

I keep my Rainbows with zebra loaches, catfish, and bristlenose pleco and everyone seems to get along famously. It's a busy tank, I tell ya.

Everyone follows me when I walk by the tank. Except the Catfish. They hate me, lol.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:01 PM   #40
 
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Well I was thinking of going with a pair of dwarf neons tbh, so is there others suited to these, or am I better off leaving them as the only gouramis in the tank?
Are we thinking the 4-foot tank here? Or the 3-foot? I guess I can respond for both. In the 3-foot, one gourami species (of these medium size species). In the 4-foot, you might have better luck. But again, individual fish can throw the wrench into this.
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