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post #11 of 16 Old 08-20-2009, 01:43 PM
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I'm sure your local store would let you buy or just give you some water...dump it in...bacteria.
I must point out that there is no beneficial nitrosomonas or nitrospira bacteria in water. These bacteria colonize surfaces where they then feed on ammonia/nitrite respectively and multiply through binary division if the food source warrants it.

Aside from that, using water from an existing tank is certainly going to add stuff you do not want in your tank...fish waste (urine, dissolved solid waste) and possibly pathogens and parasites. While adding the beneficial bacteria from an established tank (via wood, rocks, plants, filter media, substrate) is beneficial, adding these others things is not. If one quarantines fish and plants to keep stuff out, don't add water that contains the same stuff.

Considering the relatively inexpensive cost of a small bottle of Stability and how it prevents fish stress and saves them, it is money well spent.

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post #12 of 16 Old 08-20-2009, 04:37 PM Thread Starter
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The weird thing is that my ammonia was dropping from 3-5 ppm to 0 within 24 hours. I kept adding ammonia so the nitrite cycling would finish, it did. The nitrite is now 0 all the time but the ammonia is taking longer to go down for some reason.

BTW is this the "stability" stuff you are talking about? - Seachem Prime at PETCO

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The weird thing is that my ammonia was dropping from 3-5 ppm to 0 within 24 hours. I kept adding ammonia so the nitrite cycling would finish, it did. The nitrite is now 0 all the time but the ammonia is taking longer to go down for some reason.

BTW is this the "stability" stuff you are talking about? - Seachem Prime at PETCO
"Prime" is a water conditioner (and a good one by accounts from those who use it, I use Kordon but intend to try Prime when this jug is finished). "Stability" is a bacteria supplement primarily used when setting up a new tank, but can be used any time to add bacteria (as when something hapens to kill it off, although one doesn't plan such things). You can read about Stability on Seachem's website at Seachem Products click on "Conditioners" on the left, then click "Tank Cycling/Bacteria."

I've never cycled without fish, so I'll leave it to those who have to comment on the ammonia problem. I've never had this.

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Would I be able to add that bacteria even though my tank has already been cycling for quite some time?

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Would I be able to add that bacteria even though my tank has already been cycling for quite some time?
Yes. It is simply bacteria. You can't overdose as it does nothing but add bacteria and if food isn't available bacteria die back, just as they multiply when food exceeds their current numbers. This is not the same as fish and plants that die and contribute to the bioload; bacteria doesn't. But you need fish in the tank to produce the ammonia that keeps the bacteria alive and multiplying. I've no idea how much "ammonia" might be in your tank now; I would myself do a major partial water change to get back to basic water, add the Stability and the fish. Can't remember from the earlier posts, but if you will be buying fish to do this (as opposed to having some waiting in another tank) only get a few small ones. The bacteria has to be sufficient to handle the ammonia from the fish from the start. I don't know the amount of bacteria in a dose of Stability, but there is no point in rushing things.

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