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post #11 of 20 Old 10-02-2011, 10:18 PM Thread Starter
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If I was you I would take out your carbon pad/cartridge continue to use the fertilizer you have bought already and wait a couple of weeks and see if there is any improvement. If not then you can try something different. During that time study up on dry fertilizer. Besides it going to take a couple of weeks to see any difference in your plants especially if they are slow growers no matter what you are using for fertilizer. Also that premix would probably work. I dunno as I have only seen dosing regimes that show dosing those on different days not all at once. I am still learning that method myself. I want to start using those at some point.
Yeah, I've been reading up on carbon.
I'm an idiot.

Out comes the carbon.
A quick trip to wally's world and one quilt batting later, I'm *hopefully* on the path to a greener future.

Thanks everyone...
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post #12 of 20 Old 10-02-2011, 10:30 PM
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Yeah, I've been reading up on carbon.
I'm an idiot.

Out comes the carbon.
A quick trip to wally's world and one quilt batting later, I'm *hopefully* on the path to a greener future.

Thanks everyone...
I would not say your an idoit. You are just learning. Everyone has to start somewhere as long as you learn from your mistakes and go on. Well lesson learned. Also here is a dry dosing regime you could start with
40~60gal
50% H20 change-weekly
1/2 Tsp-KN03 3x a week
1/8 Tsp-KH2P04 3x a week
10ml or 1/8Tsp-Trace 3x a week
Optional
2-4ml-Fe/Iron 3x a week

Trace Element and Iron= Plantex CSM+B,
Fe/Iron Chelate 10%

Also heard/read you need to dose trace on days that you don't dose the rest. (If that makes since)
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post #13 of 20 Old 10-03-2011, 12:23 PM
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You're getting assistance with the dry fert method, so I'll leave that in their capable hands; I've never used it since I have natural low-tech systems.

To respond to your question about substrate: It is true that plants will grow and grow quite well in any substrate, be it gravel, sand, enriched or soil. The gravel has to be small-grain, the pea gravel is the largest you should use; the finer the gravel the better for rooting plants and encouraging a good organics bed. The gravel in your photo is pea gravel or perhaps a tad larger, and while this can work, it is not the preferred size; I found my substrate plants did better when moved to finer gravel than in my pea gravel tank. I have gravel tanks, sand tanks and one enriched substrate tank with Flourite (made by Seachem). More on this in a moment.

The "Laurite" you mention is I suspect Laterite, an iron clay substance. This used to be popular (in the 1990's, I tried it in one tank back then) but is less so now; it is spread on the bottom of the tank, and then gravel or sand added as the main substrate. It is only one nutrient, iron; and iron is a micro-nutrient and only one of 15 minerals needed, so you can appreciate that it is going to be minimal at best. The planted tank group has learned much since laterite was about the only thing used; in my view, and that of most of my planted aquarium colleagues, it is not worth it. An enriched substrate such as Flourite, Eco-Complete, Amazon, etc. would be more beneficial. Which brings me back to the above.

In a high-tech setup (using more intense light with CO2 diffusion) there is likely an advantage to an enriched substrate. But they are expensive compared to fine gravel or sand, plus some of them have other issues related to their sharpness. I would not recommend Flourite or Eco-Complete in a tank with corys, loaches, and similar substrate or burrowing fish. I hold this view both from personal experience and from advice from several authorities. The other brands I have not tried or seen locally.

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post #14 of 20 Old 10-03-2011, 12:30 PM
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imo... low tech is the way to go, with the lighting you have, you should be just fine. just toss the co2 injection, and dose florish compreshesive. you will be amazed. once again just my opinion.
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post #15 of 20 Old 10-18-2011, 05:13 PM Thread Starter
Just wanted to follow up with a hearty thank you to everyone here.

I started dosing dry ferts and removed my activated carbon.

My plants are going insane.
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Just wanted to follow up with a hearty thank you to everyone here.

I started dosing dry ferts and removed my activated carbon.

My plants are going insane.
I am glad everything is working out for you!
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post #17 of 20 Old 10-18-2011, 09:07 PM
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I am having similar problems with my tank and have been looking into fertilizers. I found a good site for tank owners with Co2 tanks. They go into fertilizers pretty well and have cool calculators for making your own. I am also a new planted tank owner and I am trying to understand this all as well.

Aquarium Plant Fertilizer | Green Leaf Aquariums

hope the site helps and best of luck!
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post #19 of 20 Old 03-11-2012, 10:56 AM
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That's doing well. I like that wood; branches are very difficult to find locally in stores. It may be the photo, but is there an algae issue?

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The tank looks good!
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