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post #21 of 64 Old 09-03-2012, 10:37 AM
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What is this python thing i am looking to make wter changes easier. Husband is disabled and i have been doing this by buckets and hard for me to carry.
It's a water changer. It hooks upto the faucet and drains/refills the tank. I don't know if they are available anymore, but aqueon still makes one.

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post #22 of 64 Old 09-03-2012, 10:38 AM
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What is this python thing i am looking to make wter changes easier. Husband is disabled and i have been doing this by buckets and hard for me to carry.
a syphon is just a pipe you would use to fill your bucket most gravel vacuums have either 10 or 12 mm pipe the diy one i mentioned uses 20mm which would fill a bucket very fast i use large 25 litre buckets maybe this would be big overkill for a typical sized bucket
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It's a water changer. It hooks upto the faucet and drains/refills the tank. I don't know if they are available anymore, but aqueon still makes one.
a syphon takes water under its own steam

what you refer to uses a filter
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What is this python thing i am looking to make wter changes easier. Husband is disabled and i have been doing this by buckets and hard for me to carry.
This is a hose apparatus that attaches directly to a faucet (much lke a garden hose) and the water pressure from the faucet causes a siphon to drain the tank water, and then switching the valve allows you to fill the tank. You squirt in the conditioner prior to or as you start filling.

ÈPythonÈ is a brand name but one that is now used for the apparatus. I myself prefer the Aqueon model, the faucet valve unit is better made (my Python models broke twice but my Aqueon has lasted). Here is a link to the Aqueon site:
Aqueon Aquarium Water Changer | Products

You do need a faucet with threads; the modern kitchen and bath faucets usually do not have these. I attach mine to the laundry sink faucet.

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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a syphon takes water under its own steam

what you refer to uses a filter
No, it does not use a filter.... Look it up. Or read Byron's explanation.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta

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No, it does not use a filter.... Look it up.
neither here or there i just mean this is not what i was describing

your on about python i meant the good old suck on the pipe and fill your bucket syphon
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Hello:What works for me is when 4 to 6 inches of water has evaporated from the tank I remove about 10 to 20 gallons of water and add fresh water. It's 40 or 50 gallon tank.


I must be of the ole school of fish keepers I am surprised that you might use a sump pump. If pumping large volume of water was my goal I would consider using a marine submersible pump with 1 1/2 output and a car batter for power. one word of caution be fast the pump could move a lot of water. pop
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Hello:What works for me is when 4 to 6 inches of water has evaporated from the tank I remove about 10 to 20 gallons of water and add fresh water. It's 40 or 50 gallon tank.


I must be of the ole school of fish keepers I am surprised that you might use a sump pump. If pumping large volume of water was my goal I would consider using a marine submersible pump with 1 1/2 output and a car batter for power. one word of caution be fast the pump could move a lot of water. pop
im no noob i work for my lfs and if using 20mm syphon isnt ott enough car batt etc really
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I do SW water changes (210 and 120gal) usually on Saturday evenings, and all the FW changes (55, 20,20, 10) on Sunday or Monday. If I am still energized on Saturday, I do them all in one fun-filled day. Having absolutely no social life has really improved my general care and maintenence of my tanks.

I use the Python for refilling, more than for removing water. I find that a shorter siphon hose dropped straight down into a bucket has more pulling force than the python, given the water pressure in my home. Sometimes, weather permitting, I am able to throw the end of the Python into the garden and use the water from the FW tanks to water the trees. Of course SW goes down the plumbing not to the lawn.

I like Pythons in that they save our backs. I dislike the collateral waste of water that is necessary when they are used to remove water from tank to sink via adapter.

I use a pump to move new water from mixing buckets to SW aquariums, or let a siphon drop water from the mixing buckets into the sump, and monitor the water level, turning the return pumps on occasionally so as not to overflow.

Izzy: You will get very quick, too quick at this chore and my main advice is to slow down and be methodical. In my own case, other maintenance projects like cleaning glass canopies, replacing filter media or trying to restart a stubborn power head or propeller pump REALLY SHOULD WAIT until you are done changing water. Multi-tasking in this context is asking for wet carpeting and worse. . .

I confess that I once did a large-scale water change on an African tank and FORGOT TO ADD DECHLORINATOR until the tank was nearly completely re-filled and fish were gasping in distress. Due to my negligence in this case, I lost two beautiful wild caught Synodontis multipunctatus and a gorgeous male Copadichromis borleyii I had raised from a juvenile. Fish losses do not usually bring me to tears, but they did that day.



thousands have lived without love; not one without water.


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post #30 of 64 Old 09-03-2012, 11:12 AM
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Here's the thing about evaporation - it raises the concentrations of what's contained in the water left in the tank....

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90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
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