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post #11 of 32 Old 03-25-2011, 08:24 PM
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post #13 of 32 Old 03-26-2011, 12:29 PM
Cycling a tank means letting the bacteria grow. f you put the fish in there t would not hurt them. The reason fish die in a cycle is because the nitrate nitrite and ammonia are not produced constantly because there is no bacteria that does so. If you put some of the gravel in from the 30 it would jump start the cycle and you could put some fish. I would put most of them and let the bacteria grow. So if you put enough then you can put fish in right away but if you don't you may have a nitrate spike and need to do a water change and just monitor the toxic components. If you can I would add one fish every other day until all of them are there. Still put all the gravel and every thing and use the 30 filter cartridge. And if you want to use the 30 still just get another cartridge. Keep in mind that the bacteria grows on surfaces not in the water. So taking the cartridge out of the 30 won't harm it because there is enough on the glass. Be sure to get enough fish to keep some bacteria alive in the 30. The more fish the more bacteria because the more food. So if you put the gravel and the filter stuff you will be able to put them in there. This is what I say and what I would do.

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12 Hemmigrammus Bleheri
2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
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I have decided to keep the 30 gallon and start a whole new 55 gallon (maybe more), so I will just do a shrimp cycle or something.
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post #15 of 32 Old 03-26-2011, 01:07 PM
Ok still use some gravel to jump start it. What do you plan for a stocking list.

38 gallon :
Pelvicachromis Taeniatus Nigerian Red not yet breeding pair
4 Pangio Kuhli
12 Hemmigrammus Bleheri
2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
1 Ancistrus Sp.
6 Poecilia Reticulata




The Wet Spot Portland Oregon!!!!!!

ADA: Do!aqua Iwagumi 10 gallon size!
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7 Ghost shrimp
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Some sort of Cichlid tank, though I don't know the exact fish yet.
The 30 Gallon is a community tank so I want to try something different :)
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post #17 of 32 Old 03-26-2011, 01:26 PM Thread Starter
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If I use some gravel to kick start the cycle, can I remove it after the tank has cycled? Because I want to get different colour gravel for the new tank, and some random blue gravel from the 30 gal would look funny.
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post #18 of 32 Old 03-26-2011, 02:14 PM
Yes you can. I would put it in a net or something and remove after a few weeks

38 gallon :
Pelvicachromis Taeniatus Nigerian Red not yet breeding pair
4 Pangio Kuhli
12 Hemmigrammus Bleheri
2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
1 Ancistrus Sp.
6 Poecilia Reticulata




The Wet Spot Portland Oregon!!!!!!

ADA: Do!aqua Iwagumi 10 gallon size!
7 Clown Killies
7 Ghost shrimp
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Cycling a tank means letting the bacteria grow. f you put the fish in there t would not hurt them. The reason fish die in a cycle is because the nitrate nitrite and ammonia are not produced constantly because there is no bacteria that does so. If you put some of the gravel in from the 30 it would jump start the cycle and you could put some fish. I would put most of them and let the bacteria grow. So if you put enough then you can put fish in right away but if you don't you may have a nitrate spike and need to do a water change and just monitor the toxic components. If you can I would add one fish every other day until all of them are there. Still put all the gravel and every thing and use the 30 filter cartridge. And if you want to use the 30 still just get another cartridge. Keep in mind that the bacteria grows on surfaces not in the water. So taking the cartridge out of the 30 won't harm it because there is enough on the glass. Be sure to get enough fish to keep some bacteria alive in the 30. The more fish the more bacteria because the more food. So if you put the gravel and the filter stuff you will be able to put them in there. This is what I say and what I would do.
Actually the reason fish die in a cycle is because of the spikes in levels of ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates. Those are harmful to fish, they don't die because they are without them.

Taking the cartridge out of the 30 will harm the cycle because most of the bacteria is in the filter not the glass. Plus the water has to run through the bacteria in the filter to be cleansed of the ammonia and nitrites. So the filter is still necessary. Changes the filter media will completely restart the cycle.

Original poster, I would do what Thoth suggested.
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post #20 of 32 Old 03-26-2011, 02:18 PM
I meant that there is no bacteria and that cause there deaths by the spikes

38 gallon :
Pelvicachromis Taeniatus Nigerian Red not yet breeding pair
4 Pangio Kuhli
12 Hemmigrammus Bleheri
2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
1 Ancistrus Sp.
6 Poecilia Reticulata




The Wet Spot Portland Oregon!!!!!!

ADA: Do!aqua Iwagumi 10 gallon size!
7 Clown Killies
7 Ghost shrimp
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