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post #1 of 11 Old 07-30-2010, 10:43 AM Thread Starter
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Question Monitoring Tetra Safestart

I added a bottle for up to 30 gallons to my 10 gallon last night around 8PM. It is not 7:45AM and i tested the water. Ammonia is from .5-1ppm, no nitrite reading, nitrate is between 10-20 ppm. i will be posting my results as i test my water for those of you who kinda wanna try, but aren't sure if it'll work. We'll see if im one of the lucky ones whos bacteria actually did work.
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post #2 of 11 Old 07-30-2010, 07:38 PM
good luck with it

5x2x2 aro,highfin bat,fei feng,ST,albino tinfoil,c.perch
4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
2x1x1 nano sw shrimps
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post #3 of 11 Old 07-30-2010, 08:13 PM
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I used Nutrafin Cycle when I set up my 37g tank.I wouldn't have except I was breaking down an old tank to start a new one and had to move my fish quickly.I'm glad to say I didn't loose any fish in the move but I also did water changes religiously and still do.I think the biological supplements work if you do it correctly and don't rely on them to do all the work for you.

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post #4 of 11 Old 07-30-2010, 08:20 PM
nutrafin is wonderful btw.i love it.pure herbal and safe =)

5x2x2 aro,highfin bat,fei feng,ST,albino tinfoil,c.perch
4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
2x1x1 nano sw shrimps
22 May 2012
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post #5 of 11 Old 07-30-2010, 08:51 PM
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I have many years ago used Cycle. With so many plants, I may or may not have needed it anyway, but it was something of a "cushion" just to be safe.

I now recommend two products that are 100% bacteria, no chemicals or stuff. Seachem's Stability is one, and Tetra's Safe Start is the other. I have used the former.

Several years ago, Dr. Timothy Hovanec, a biologist, discovered the process for bottling live bacteria, and he had his own business. He sold the patent rights to Tetra, and SafeStart is that formula. Seachem's may not be identical, but it is bacteria and that is what matters.

Dr. Hovanec also discovered that the second bacterium in the nitrification cycle is not nitrobacter but nitrospira. There may be some other bacteria involved as well, but the main ones according to Dr. Hovanec's findings are nitrosomonas and nitrospira.

For those interested, here is a link to his papers on the bacteria:
http://www.drtimsaquatics.com/Librar...ncePapers.html
The second, third and fourth abstract deal with the nitrifying bacteria discoveries, and there are links to the full scientific papers. The second tab from the left in the purple bar across the top, headed H2O Pure-Freshwater, takes you to his bacteria bottling info.

Byron.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #6 of 11 Old 07-31-2010, 01:39 PM Thread Starter
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since I ant seem to edit my first post (?), heres my 1st&2nd day results

day 1:
ammonia: .5-1 ppm
nitrite: 0
nitrate: 10-20 ppm

day 2: no changes at all, yet. Hoping the ammonia will go down soon..
ammonia: .5-1 ppm
nitrite: 0
nitrate: 10-20 ppm
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post #7 of 11 Old 08-01-2010, 11:36 AM Thread Starter
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day 3: slight drop in ammonia. Remember, 3 fish in tank (2male guppies, 1male betta)
ammonia: .25-.5
nitrite: 0
nitrate: 20-40 (the api nitrate test is hard to read cuz 10&20 as well as 40&80 are so similar in color it's nearly impossible to tell the difference..)
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post #8 of 11 Old 08-02-2010, 10:51 AM Thread Starter
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day 4: slight drop in ammonia.
ammonia: a little higher than .25
nitrite: 0
nitrate: 40(i then did a 10% water change)

once ammonia hits zero I will be adding 4 white clouds, remove the betta, and then if everything is stable, I'll add 2 more +8;;, then a week after, I'll add my last guppy.
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post #9 of 11 Old 08-02-2010, 10:54 PM Thread Starter
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today(day 4) I have decided to remove the betta early and replace him with 4 white clouds. Prior to removing/adding, the ammonia level was under .25. I took my heater out but temps still seem to be hovering around 78 degrees.. Trying to get it around 75 degrees.
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post #10 of 11 Old 08-04-2010, 10:57 AM Thread Starter
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day 5: slight drop in ammonia
ammonia: <<.25
nitrite: 0
nitrate: 30

day 6: added in 2 more white clouds & some amazon sword the night before today
ammonia: >.25 (not surprised)
nitrite: 0
nitrate: did not test
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