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Old 12-31-2012, 04:16 PM   #51
 
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So I'm literally about to order one of these cliff walls. Just one for now as its a decent 35 cm length!

However it 15cm tall, and I don't want to have 3/4 of my tank with 15cm of substrate obviously! So I'm looking at cutting it down to around 7cm. It's made of glass fiber reinforced plastic...... so I'm wondering if anyone knows how hard this is to basically saw probably, and then carve out a hollow for a plec cave. I guess it's going to be messy and will then need a lot of sanding down etc to its smooth, and safe, for my fish but wondering if it'll be alright and whether or not it's just going to fall apart doing this!?!
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Old 12-31-2012, 04:42 PM   #52
 
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So I'm literally about to order one of these cliff walls. Just one for now as its a decent 35 cm length!

However it 15cm tall, and I don't want to have 3/4 of my tank with 15cm of substrate obviously! So I'm looking at cutting it down to around 7cm. It's made of glass fiber reinforced plastic...... so I'm wondering if anyone knows how hard this is to basically saw probably, and then carve out a hollow for a plec cave. I guess it's going to be messy and will then need a lot of sanding down etc to its smooth, and safe, for my fish but wondering if it'll be alright and whether or not it's just going to fall apart doing this!?!
Well, naturally the cut side will be on the bottom hidden by substrate. So that shouldn't be a problem. For the cave, you could just use a small clay flower pot, jar, or medicine bottle and hide the opening with plants, decor, etc. As for cutting, I would use a blade with very fine teeth and take it slow.

Have you thought of using natural stones with silicone sealant ?
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Old 12-31-2012, 04:57 PM   #53
 
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I have indeed FM, that one was my original idea, then foam, then I found this cheat method.
The one thing I love about these chalk ones though FM is then remind me of the chalk cliffs on the south coast somewhat and I remember visiting them when I was iccle and so along with moving the look, it's nice memories. Before life got hard!
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Old 12-31-2012, 05:00 PM   #54
 
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Oh, as for the cutting I was thinking I'd just drill tiny holes along it and use a serrated knife.....or small saw. Think your right in that small blade would be better and with the drill holes, easy to join up.
And I was going to buy a terracotta one, but I've obviously never had a plec before and don't know what would be best. It'll be 90% a queen arabesque.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:00 PM   #55
 
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Ok, so ive just bought 2. I did ask though and they'd be more than happy to let em return them should i change my mind. Pic in a sec.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:12 PM   #56
 
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:20 PM   #57
 
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Ok, so left pic, all the way to my right is the normal level of substrate. i piled it in front, just to see how it would look to NOT cut them down, which i never really considered BTW.

Pic on right shows the back and how they stay in place which kind of ruins my plans to cut the bottom off, but at the same time, if i cut the top, i will lose the little lip to tuck the sub under and the nice ''top of cliff'' effect. I've thought about cutting down the bottom still and using silicone to secure it to the base of my tank...BUT as far as i know you need to let it cure for 3 days in a dry tank. NOT an option as fishies need tank. I dont think 6 polkadot loaches, 6 rosey tetras, and 2 dwarf neon gouramis would appreciate 3 days in a 15 gallon tank which is my only other tank unfortunately!

if i cut down the bottom still- how could i ensure it stays in place if i lose that large ''lip''? is there something else i could attach that would give the same effect?

SO, i was wondering if i might get any suggestion on how i might rectify this as opposed to just returning them.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:20 AM   #58
 
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considering on the far right is your normal level of gravel i wouldnt really worry about cutting them, the level of substrate doesnt necessarily have to be at the very top if you put some plents in which would cover the top anyway. If you drilled in some randomly placed holes and pushed plants in them you will get an extremely good look. I like the look of them but me being awkward id use reall rocks, i hate the way that ideas in your head never quite seem to transform into the exact replica!
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