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Old 09-08-2012, 07:01 PM   #1
 
Is this to many?

I finally have my 36 gallon bowfront up and running.I have a sanded bottom and real plants in the tank.
I have a Dwarf Blue Gourami,4 Angel Rams,1 Dojo Loach,2 Kuhli Loaches,2 Panda Cory's,1Killisfish, and 3 ghost shrimp.Is this alot?They all get along so good.
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:18 PM   #2
 
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Sounds like a nice mix to me. Except the dojo; i do not know that fish.
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:21 PM   #3
 
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You aren't over stocked. although, some of those fish as adults can get fairly big and will most likely create an overstocked tank. The Dojo Loach being to main problem. They can get up to about 10 inches long meaning they would probably outgrow your tank. Now you do have problems with the Stocking options though. for example
-your Blue Gourami may be too aggressive for you killifish
-Your angel ram may also be too aggressive
-the Kuhli loach should have a group of at least 5
-panda cory prefer groups of at least 4
-most importantly the water temperatures required for each different breeds of fish aren't all compatible. really the only temp you would be able to have that could fit in the ranges of most of the fish is about 77 F (25 C)
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:22 PM   #4
 
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Angel rams?

And I'm not sure of the sizes of those loaches but make sure they don't get too large. You've got a lot of bottom dwellers... and bottom dwellers that need to shoal. You should just stick to either one appropriately sized loach or a cory species and get 5-8 of them.. maybe more depending on what you go with.

I'm also not familiar with killis and whether they need to shoal or not.
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:24 PM   #5
 
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I don't believe Killifish need to school. OP does have a fair amount of bottom dwellers. Also I believe Angel Rams are a variation of German Rams, but not entirely sure.
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:31 PM   #6
 
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Ah, Ok.. the balloon GBRs? That makes sense. Be careful with rams.. the males can get very mean to the females, even if you don't see it. I'm not sure what your m:f ratio is, but even when I had one male and one female, the male ended up stressing out the female to the point it died. No visible aggression, they just emit hormones into the water that show they don't like the female. I also had another pair later that did pair off and they were very aggressive to the other tank mates while spawning. It always worried me, and then my tank crashed and the female died so that, unfortunately, alleviated that problem. Of course, I've just got a 28gal so maybe it'll be different for you. I'd be worried if you have 3-4 males though.. keep an eye out I guess. :)

Also, be aware of the Dwarf Gourami virus they get. Lost my DG to that and it sucks. If you can take it back still, I'd suggest getting a honey Gourami instead.
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:40 PM   #7
 
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Hmmm. . . this is a really odd stocking list! I don't think that your tank is overstocked, exactly - not YET anyway. But there are several other issues that are of concern with this stocking. . .

First is temperature requirements, and the Dojo Loach is definitely a misfit in this tank. I'm not sure if you know, but these guys get huge - they really will need a tank that is 50 gallons or larger, and they prefer cooler temperatures than many of the tropical fish that you have. Loaches in general are very social creatures, they need a shoal in order to be happy. I'd say a minimum of 3 for the Dojo's, and though you can get away with 3 Kuhli, 5+ is preferable - the more the merrier in loachville! Kuhli also prefer things a *bit* on the cooler side, but they 're a better match temperature wise with the normal temps kept in a tropical tank.

Panda Corys are another fish that will be unhappy if they aren't kept with others of their kind. . . You really would want a shoal of four or more for them to feel comfortable in your tank. . .

I'm not very familiar with Killifish, to be honest, but I feel like I've read somewhere that they also need to be kept in a group, and tend to prefer cooler temperatures, too?

Another thing to consider is that most of the fish you've chosen for this tank prefer to hang out in the bottom of the aquarium. Loaches, Cories, shrimp, and Rams all tend to stay low in the tank, so they may be uncomfortable in a situation like this one - especially as they reach full growth.

I'm not entirely convinced that your rams or your gourami won't make a snack out of your shrimp (could be wrong here!)

So. . . while you have enough ROOM for the fish you have *technically* (though the Dojo might be too big to stay in this tank eventually) if it were my tank I think I'd choose 3 or maybe 4 of the fish that I like best, get a few more of those, and return/rehome the rest.

I hope this helps you out! Good luck with your tank stocking - I think it'd be a good idea for you to do a bit more research into these specific fish and see what will ultimately work best for you and your tank - and temperature!
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:46 PM   #8
 
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Oh yes, I should've mentioned that my DG ate all my ghost shrimp! I've had German Blue Rams before and they were fine with the ghost shrimp.. I ended up getting large amano shrimp for my tank because of the Gourami.. if you get adult ones, they may not be eaten. Some say they can eat amanos, mine did not - only ghosts. Ghost shrimp are so very cheap though, so for a while I would just buy 15-20 ghosts and let them get eaten. They worked well as a clean up crew as long as they lasted. I felt bad for them, but they are feeder shrimp.
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Old 09-08-2012, 08:58 PM   #9
 
[quote=jennesque;1234933]Oh yes, I should've mentioned that my DG ate all my ghost shrimp! I've had German Blue Rams before and they were fine with the ghost shrimp.. I ended up getting large amano shrimp for my tank because of the Gourami.. if you get adult ones, they may not be eaten. Some say they can eat amanos, mine did not - only ghosts. Ghost shrimp are so very cheap though, so for a while I would just buy 15-20 ghosts and let them get eaten. They worked well as a clean up crew as long as they lasted. I felt bad for them, but they are feeder shrimp.
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All my fish leave the Ghost Shrimp alone.My fish all get along and don't fight at all with eachother.They all seem very happy

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Old 09-08-2012, 09:04 PM   #10
 
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[quote=DragonFyre14;1234888]You aren't over stocked. although, some of those fish as adults can get fairly big and will most likely create an overstocked tank. The Dojo Loach being to main problem. They can get up to about 10 inches long meaning they would probably outgrow your tank. Now you do have problems with the Stocking options though. for example
-your Blue Gourami may be too aggressive for you killifish
-Your angel ram may also be too aggressive
-the Kuhli loach should have a group of at least 5
-panda cory prefer groups of at least 4
-most importantly the water temperatures required for each different breeds of fish aren't all compatible. really the only temp you would be able to have that could fit in the ranges of most of the fish is about 77 F (25 C)[/QUOTE

None of my fish are aggressive.I will get 3 more Kuhli's and One more Panda Cory.I have anothe DG in another tank and I was told if I get another then they should all 3 get along.The 2 DG don't get along so I had to separate them
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